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If the L Word is Renewed

for a 6th Season. I hope you will give us some more of those funny, sexy, intimate Tibette moments similar to episode 507. The downer for the episode was that there were hardly any Bette and Tina scenes. I loved the one on Bev and Nina's bed. This would sure put a smile on Bette's face. It was delightful seeing a moment like that of Tibette. Thank you.

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Ilene if the L-Word is not renewed

For a 6th season ,Will Ourchart keep going on?

Again not a question, just a thank you.....

Okay, if the information is right about who Bette chooses in the end....and GOD I hope it is. Thank you for not letting the Tibetter's pressure you. Between you and me, I think they have a few splinter's in the windmills of their mind. Oh, and thanks for keeping Marlee around she's awesome. ;)

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"Love is large, love defies limits. People talk about the sanctity of love...love is by definition sacred. Not some love between some people but all love between all people." ~Jennifer Beals~

Not sure where

Not sure where you're getting your "information" and it doesn't really matter. I enjoy watching the show and see where things go. I will say this however... if you get your wish... then I'm pretty sure IC can say goodbye to a season 6. Because, like it or not, TiBetter's are the majority viewers ....and if she gives them a big FU at the end of this season ... I can pretty much guarantee the won't be around to take anymore.

DJM

why was this reported? was

why was this reported? was this a threat? I think we all can agree that Ilene has had the most flack over the last 4 years, from Tibetters. She's been chased and emailed and phoned and...She's endured so much from the fan base. Fuck steel! Her balls are made of fire that can't be extinguished.

I agree, simply because the fact that the TiBetters will be out for blood...it's crazy mad stuff, she's just gonna have to submerse herself into a new project, just to fucking hide from them.

I can deal with that...but I'm still crossing my fingers for a season 6...

rovermom :)

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Generalize much?

I'm Polish, would you also make a blatently generalized statement about all polish peoples? Most people who want Bette and Tina back together do not behave as you have just mentioned. It's the few who act like fools that let's people, like you, unfortuneately, put them all in one box and label them as "Tibetters will be out for blood". Not only guilty of high generalization but hyperbole much?

what ever. rovermom :) Life

what ever.

rovermom :)

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LOL!

We do agree on one thing though, MM is awesome!

Oh nice- a double shot

throw crap at Tibetters and ruin the season for me. Well, I guess I should thank you for saving me the time I would waste by watching the rest of the season. 506 is certainly as good a stopping place as any.

Must say I'm confused after watching what a lovely relationship Jodi and Bette have in S5 why you'd be so exciting. And just for the record, in case you've missed the last 4 seasons, its not like IC has made a practice of capitulating to the wishes of the majority of her viewers (Tibetters).

PS, on an internet forum, there's no 'between you and me'.

JM.....

Don't touch that dial.....you won't be able to wipe the Tibette smile off your face at the end of S5. Don't let anything shake your faith....it WILL happen! We do have a price to pay for it though, because I.C. gives nothing to Tibetters without paying for it, but just like Bette and Tina, we will get through it. Just don't stop watching or hoping for that S6.

No shit?! Ever hear of

No shit?! Ever hear of sarcasm? You know the way you Tibetters are responding, just proves my point of how frickin, crazy some of you are. You would only screw yourself if the show cancelled....then you wouldn't have anything to bitch about. Then what would you do?
Oh and to whoever reported this post......ever hear of free speech?

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"Love is large, love defies limits. People talk about the sanctity of love...love is by definition sacred. Not some love between some people but all love between all people." ~Jennifer Beals~

i have just one question...

why did you have to kill off dana? i don't understand, she was amazing. i remember when you did that i officially hated you. but this season is fantastic and i'm kind of getting over my grudge.

Ilene

Remember asking us TiBetter's if we were sure Bette and Tina
getting back together would make us happy? Well, what do you think now? Ratings are high from what I hear.
And not only do we want the awesome sex, but we want it all ... the shot of them holding each other made my heart melt.....and a lot of other folks too, I believe. So yea, I think we're happy. And I think we'll be even happier when you reunite them for good.
JMO

DJM

Very, very happy!

Ilene... thanks for allowing the characters of Bette and Tina to come back together. It would make all of us TiBetters even more happy if they STAY together for good!

Thank You Ilene

Yes Ilene, you made us very happy. And we are looking forward to more happy Tibette moments from here on leading to a full reunion. And hopefully, when the show gets renewed for the 6th season, we'll have a TiBette wedding. That is our ultimate wish and thank you in advance.

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Hi , Ilene

I just want to ,,thank you,, for this movie...
You have the most beautiful and talented actress , at this time , in the world...
You made a good job , above all , you have the courage ...
I think YOU ALL GIRLS ARE AMAZING...
I am Jennifer,s ,,fanatik,, fun , but i think all deserves a reward ...
Oscar , maybe??? Why not?

Good luck with all your projects...You have our suport !!!

Just missing one!

The drama combined with humor this season is phenomenal. If we are blessed with a Season 6, is there ANY way to write Dana back into the show? She is so great with both. I know it's not something that would ever happen in reality (especially since she died of breast cancer), but this isn't reality; it's TV. Even more, it's Showtime. The fans can accept any and all.

You are great writers so I'm thinking there must be some creative way to bring Erin Daniels back into the mix of characters. That's assuming she's up for it. I’ve just noticed in the posts that the humor, electricity, and camaraderie she brought to the show is sorely missed and, although I know some fans will scrutinize, I think most fans will just be grateful.

With or without, still loving the show! Thanks so much to all of you for bringing what you have to us!

Ilene...not a question, but a concern regarding your intent...

Ilene, for some reason I feel a lack of trust regarding the Bette and Tina reunion. By trust I mean your intent. Please don't bring these two together just to have them part once again. It's very upsetting. Now mind you, I'm not a crazed, obsessesed fan. I am a 41 year old, professional, well educated, mature woman. It is important to me to have two lesbians who love each other represented on the television. These can only be Bette and Tina at this point. To break them up again, and for good, would be just wrong. What a wonderful love story you have created, with the help of the chemistry between Jennifer and Laurel. Please take advantage of this opportunity

No question

I don't want to ask any questions I just wanted to say, "thank you." Thank you for creating "The L Word" and thank you for having the courage and the vision to be the first to put our lives on t.v.

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"Love is large, love defies limits. People talk about the sanctity of love...love is by definition sacred. Not some love between some people but all love between all people." ~Jennifer Beals~

How do You Choose Your L Word Writers?

How do you choose the staff writers for the L word? What's the most important thing you look for?

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Curious

Ilene -
Why does Bette cheat? Again?

italian girlDON'T YOU THINK

italian girl

DON'T YOU THINK THAT WE NEED THE 6th..SEASON????????????
:-d :-D ;-D

And many more seasons!!!

And many more seasons!!!

italian girl :-D :-D :-D ;-D

italian girl

:-D :-D :-D ;-D

Thank You

Thank you for bringing us this:

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...for that. :)

Do you realize that you have the best job in the world?

I want to know how your such

I want to know how your such a genius!!!!!! ;-)

506 filmmaking question

I posted this question in another thread. I think IC may be the only one who can answer for sure though others are welcome to try.
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I've watched 506 many, many times, especially that second scene with TiBette at Tina's (new?) place.

Does anyone know how IC did that shot where we see TiBette in a two-shot sitting at the table and then the camera moves into the bedroom and finds them in bed.

Every time I watch it, I try to see if I can detect a cut or a dissolve...something, but I can't see it.

I'm beginning to think that the shot of Tina walking to the table and the two-shot of them at the table were different and the second one had a green screen in the background and the bedroom was composited into the shot later.

That's what I think. Are there any filmmakers/film aficionados who have a different, more educated take on this?

If kind of driving me to distraction and, frankly, I have things to do. lol

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“In my mind nothing pleases God more than love. I do not think it pleases God to codify bigotry.” Jennifer Beals

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We did it with a locked off

We did it with a locked off camera. We shot the first scene, with Bette and Tina sitting at the table, with the camera locked in position. At the end of the scene, Laurel and Jennifer sat perfectly still for a moment as we did the little camera push. Then, they got up from the table, we moved the table out of the way with the camera still locked in position, and we set up for the next scene. Once we were lit and ready to shoot, Laurel and Jennifer got onto the bed for the next scene, and we did the camera dolly shot through Tina's loft to find them on the bed.

That was done very well and

That was done very well and almost seamless. I rewatched the scene after reading this. Did you film yourselves doing this scene? I think that would have made an interesting podcast. Thanks for answering that question :)

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That's interesting. I was

That's interesting.
I was also wondering how phone conversations are made. Does someone reads the answers to the actor while doing the phone convo? Or is it just a matter of good cut? I hope this question doesn't sound completely idiotic.

Phone Conversations

I hope it's not an idiotic question cuz I was wondering the same thing.:) I'm guessing it varies from show to show, but I'm curious as to how they film them for the L Word. For example, in 506 when Tina was on the phone with Bette asking if she wanted to meet her and Angie at the Planet for breakfast. And then again later when Bette called Tina while she was at the Planet with Alice and Shane. Were they really on the phone with each other, or was it propped? How do they do that?

My take is that they

My take is that they rehearse these conversations together, as a whole, between the actors and when shooting, the actresses basically recite the whole conversation from the other end in their head - for timing purposes. I guess someone could read from the other end, but wouldn't a mic pick up that sound coming from the other end?

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Wow! It's completely

Wow! It's completely seamless. That's genius. And I thought I'd seen everything!

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“In my mind nothing pleases God more than love. I do not think it pleases God to codify bigotry.” Jennifer Beals

Man, I was close. I thought

Man, I was close. I thought they spliced it together thoe. ;)

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"Love is large, love defies limits. People talk about the sanctity of love...love is by definition sacred. Not some love between some people but all love between all people." ~Jennifer Beals~

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Ilene

Just wanted to say I love how you wrote Jenny this season,shes funny.Thanks

Thank you

Ilene, I really appreciate all the blogs on Our Chart and especially all the chance for political comment and commentary. It is the most wonderful part of the site to me , well that and all the TLW dish. Thanks for a great 5th season and for listening to the fans, since this seems to be our one and only show it is nice to feel that love ( deep abiding romantic soul mate love) between women will be affirmed. You have so obviously affirmed lesbian sexuality but I like that love too has had a voice - Dana and Alice at the end and now our star crossed confused lovers for life Bette and Tina. Thanks for all you have added to the lesbian lexicon on TV and the net.

what if we had the keys to the world, we held them all in our hand...

Would you ever consider

Would you ever consider writing other projects and casting Jennifer as the lead? Do you think she would ever consider playing a lesbian again?
Sorry, that's 2 questions.

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"Love is large, love defies limits. People talk about the sanctity of love...love is by definition sacred. Not some love between some people but all love between all people." ~Jennifer Beals~

Thank you

I saw the video of you at UCLA and just wanted to thank you for "not running away from the chemistry between these two actors" (JB & LuH)
And thank you also for allowing the characters to "take on a life of their own". I'm not sure, but I think that's how it's supposed to be.

DJM

Can we have more airtime Jennifer Beals?

PLEASE, and also more JB-LuH scenes too? they are the BEST of the show.

JB

I second this.

dear ilene, beg for bette

Can We Have a Happy-Bette, a Hilarious-Bette, a Funny-Bette, or a Sexily-Swearing-Bette, if we won't get an Alpha-Bette?

Please and thanks.

P.S.: and a More-Airtime-Bette

Yes

I'd love to see some more happy Bette scenes ... and of course more sex scenes can't hurt. :)

agree

more airtime bette....please ...shane's sex scenes are so boring and bis repetita.....what's her problem
with her head and kiss???

The L Word is not The Jennifer Beals show

She already gets more screen time then other core characters. Characters like Tina,Helena and Kit have had there screen times cut drastically, be happy you at least get 3/4 of the show with Bette, those that like other characters have to do with seconds of screen time.

JB is the show for me...

Just speaking for myself, JB is the only reason I watch the show at this point. She brings TLW to a whole new level with her performance. She's just so stunning and mesmerizing to watch and brings a real sense of authenticity to everything she does. Her character just feels real and relatable with all her flaws and vulnerability, while being someone I totally admire.

Not to mention, JB is fucking gorgeous.

I wish it was the Jennifer

I wish it was the Jennifer Beals Show.;)
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"Love is large, love defies limits. People talk about the sanctity of love...love is by definition sacred. Not some love between some people but all love between all people." ~Jennifer Beals~

With all due respect SherriBerri,

Jennifer does take top billing. She has paid her dues to achieve that billing and to forget it would be remiss.
While it is an ensemble cast, the two main characters of the series are Bette and Jenny. The first word spoken in act one of the pilot was “Bette”.

Let's think about how

Let's think about how Showtime promotes the show. When they send actors on talk shows to promote TLW, who do they send? Nine times out of 10 they send JB. That has to tell you that, even if she is not thought of as the star, per se, TPTB at Showtime know that she has a better chance of getting attention and getting people to tune in than, say, Kate Moennig or Leisha Hailey (nothing against them).

I think it has to do with JB's name. People still remember "Flashdance," Heck, I know I do. Yes, this is an ensemble show, but of all the names in that ensemble, who do people know? Speaking for myself, before this show aired, I'd never heard of the other actresses, whether I'd seen their work or not. JB and Pam Grier are the ones I knew and those are the two the network sends out to promote the show. Lately, Cybill has been doing promos for the same reason: name recognition.

JB is one of the few (maybe the only) cast members who has promoted the show by herself. She is certainly the one they send out most often. I think that speaks volumes about what the network knows is Miss Beals' popularity.

I've said it before, but it bears repeating: if there's no JB, there's no wordswork02 watching TLW. Yeah, there are other characters and other stories but, to me, they are like commercials during regularly-scheduled programming. I can take them, leave them, or go to the bathroom during them.

If JB gets paid more than everyone else...well, that's just capitalism, whatever the market will bear and all that stuff. Good for her. She's been languishing in the wilderness of indy film far too long.

And to respond to someone's question as to why JB isn't an "A-List" actress: thank God she isn't. Do you think an A-List actress would accept a role on an ensemble series on pay cable? I think not.

Could you see Angelina or Charlize Theron or Halle Berry doing something like that? I can't.

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“In my mind nothing pleases God more than love. I do not think it pleases God to codify bigotry.” Jennifer Beals

In my opinion Jennifer is an

In my opinion Jennifer is an "A list" actress....have you looked at some of the people she's worked along side?
She's said many times that she doesn't want to be as famous as say, Julia Roberts. I don't blame her, some people just like their privicy. But I'm sure "The L Word" has opened up many more doors for her in reguards of film rolls. I just don't think she is the type of person to chose somthing just for money, it's more about substance.

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"Love is large, love defies limits. People talk about the sanctity of love...love is by definition sacred. Not some love between some people but all love between all people." ~Jennifer Beals~

PR Work

Thats part of the job that JB has, due to her name she will be out promoting this show,CS sure isn't the star of the show and she does more promoting then JB. that doesn't mean she is the star of the show. During emmy considerations, JB,LuH and Mia are submitted for Best Actress catergory by shotime. Laurel makes herself available every year to hundreds of fans, promoting this show at the conventions. Shotime isn't sending her out, but she makes the time to do it, and makes herself available for the fans. Same goes for Leisha and Kate.

JB already takes up more screen time then anyone else, why ask for more, she already gets screentime and more, which is cutting the screentime of others, how fair is that, when the show is a ensemble show.