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Phone Sex: The Sexual Is Political

[In response to Bryn Kelly’s Phone Sex question “Is sex political? If so, how? In what ways could our choice of partners be considered political? Would you ever hit it with someone whose politics you despise, and if so, how far is too far? Jenna Bush? Condi Rice? Ann Coulter?”]

In a society that represses women and queers to the extent that ours does, any type of sex is a political act. And dyke sex is especially political when you consider the repression we face as women, as queers and the fact that we struggle even among ourselves about the “right” way to fuck and still question each other’s gender presentation.

The first dyke porn magazine, On Our Backs, was a direct response to the anti-porn lesbian feminism of the '70s and early '80s. The title was a spin off the serious feminist periodical Off Our Backs. At that time, your politics could easily be summed up by whether you were reading On Our Backs or Off Our Backs at the local coffee shop. And if you wanted to get busy in the horizontal way, you’d better pick up someone perusing the former.

In 1984, when On Our Backs started publishing, we were just coming out of a sexless time. We wanted to downplay our desire and gender so that it couldn’t be used against us by the patriarchy. Think about it like this: proving we didn’t actually like sex could negate the old adage “She was asking for it.” Navigating our own desire, learning to embrace it amongst ourselves while also keeping it safe from the belittling effect of male objectification was and still is a struggle. At the time, we really didn’t know what else to do other than just hide it. On Our Backs was smut, but it was also a political statement that resonated within our own community: We’re here, we’re queer, we like to fuck.

I was very fortunate when I came on as editor of On Our Backs in 2001. My editorial choices were more celebratory than reactionary. Bulldagger leatherdyke handballing scene complete with Crisco? Sure! Femme/femme knife-play in full lingerie? Yes! I wanted more bondage, more transwomen, more transmen, more big girls, more femmes, more butches, more of everything and everyone. Bring it on. I firmly believed there was no such thing as the right way to have “lesbian sex” any more. If dykes were doing it, I wanted to show it.

The fights we had amongst ourselves have mostly been settled; it’s time to turn our focus to sex in the pubic sphere. Carol Hanisch points out in her 1969 essay, “The Personal is Political,” that women gathering together to talk about what is going on in their lives is a form of consciousness-raising and a precursor to direct action. Drawing from Marxist ideology, Hanisch believed that women’s problems are less about the individual and actually about women as a group. By her standards, much of our personal problems stem not from our own failures, but from the systematic, gender oppression we face. If we include our shame around sex and desire in Hanisch’s vision of female oppression, then these Phone Sex blogs on OurChart become a political act.

Take it a few steps further and attending sex parties, baring your tits at the dyke march, wearing whatever the hell you want, participating in the masturbate-a-thon and fucking in public are all political acts. Go ahead and raise that Hitachi in your clenched fist and declare your right to get off, baby. It’s good for the cause.

Bryn also asked if your choice of partner could be considered a political act. My answer to that is a resounding yes. Because there is a special form of repression and oppression reserved for queers, queer sex has political ramifications that extend far beyond your bedroom. If the world is Footloose, then eating out your girlfriend is like dancing in a barn with Kevin Bacon and Lawrence v. Texas is like forcing John Lithgow to let you have senior prom.

Just reminding people you are queer and having sex is political. I think the most political queers are the ones that don’t assimilate well. The cute lesbian couples in matching Nicole Foster suits and the pin-stripe Hugo Boss wearing gay boys catching the Muni to the Financial District might lack the same civil rights as all of us. I’m not saying society is a safe place if you assimilate. But feminine couples could be mistaken for gal pals. And matching suit-wearing gay boys could be mistaken for business partners. The flat-topped butch with septum ring and a red hanky in her back pocket walking hand-in-hand with her high-heeled femme girlfriend in full rockabilly attire reek of sex. When you look at that couple, you know they are going home to fuck. They’re loud and hot and out for everyone to see. And that kind of in-your-face visibility is about as political as you can get.

Bryn’s third question was about getting busy with someone whose politics you despise. Well, my personal answer is yes and no. Jenna Bush is icky. Condi Rice has that cute gap between her teeth, so maybe. But Ann Coulter? Yes! I would so do her. I think behind those boring conservative politics is a super-pervy sexpot. I’m positive if I bent her over the sink she’d change teams in a hot second.

So my follow-up question goes to Michelle Wolff. As an out actress, how does it feel to be a lesbian sex symbol? We have so few hot dykes on TV to lust after that every time you play a cop, a detective or an EMT in a primetime series, lesbian hearts go pitter pat. Would you want to see more dykes in traditionally masculine roles or do you think it’s reinforcing stereotypes?

[check back next Monday for Michelle's answer]

36 Comments

Yowza

Okay, first off, c'mon. You know damn well Ann Coulter is one of those super powerful (read scary to almost anyone) incredibly repressed women just waiting to unleash the tiger... So, if you are hot for her, think about doing her with a lot of rope and some duct tape for her mouth... That'll finally shut her up and do us all a favor!

And I am feeling a little tossed about by these femme with femme comments. I guarantee you that we leave our purses appropriately out of the bedroom, and they don't bump, but everything else bumps just fine ;)

Yes, the butch & femme walking down the street strutting their stuff sometimes reek of sex, but what about two hot femmes who are obviously hot for each other walking down the street? No doubt what they are going to do either. And it's the "passable" unexpectedness of it that makes femmes with femmes so hot.

Are my partner and I making a political statement by being together? Perhaps. But we are not together to make a political statement, we are together because we love each other. The politics of it all is just a side effect due to the current political and societal climate. I think it's an important clarification. I am not going to be with a butch just to make a statement. I will fight for rights and recognition every step of the way, but I won't compromise on who I love just to reinforce repression.

BRAVO............

Thank you. Femme on femme. Hotter than hot. Wetter than wet.

I am in a femme state of mind :-))

Just for the record....

Just for the record....

"The flat-topped butch with septum ring and a red hanky in her back pocket walking hand-in-hand with her high-heeled femme girlfriend in full rockabilly attire reek of sex."

HOT HOT HOT....

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Cager,

so many great points.
and as always helps me to formulate other ideas to talk about.

one of them being something that's come up on other threads:
Why is it that assimilationist gays/lesbians are less political (in my view, iconic) than radical queers?

also that radical queer representation is representation of our sexuality; what we may do between the sheets sometimes informs what we wear in the streets.

And of course Phyllis Christopher comes to mind as i read through your post.

i actually get "assimilationist" but...

Grace, i wonder about your definition of "less political". do you mean less politically active, less passionate about queer issues, less progressive, less provocative or all of the above?

Well common sense suggests

Well common sense suggests that she's referring to gays and lesbians who "act straight" or behave within already established norms rather than, to quote Jennifer Beals in a recent post, "make the choice to honor their most authentic selves." I'm just wondering if Grace has a different definition. I disagree that one has to be radical and "in your face" to effect social change, so I'm curious about Grace's comment about assimilationists not being political.

Grace, Can you please

Grace,

Can you please clarify what you mean by "assimilationist gays and lesbians?" I have many ideas on this topic, but I'd like to know what this is exactly before I respond.

My first topic of discussion will be the radical idea of "F#@!ing in public" as a way to change society.

We always think of those

We always think of those with the sharp contrast of views, of dress, of tongue being the radical. Political is, in our culture, polar...you are either assimilated or a radical...and radical is one that we think of always changing the views of the world.

At some point, those that are assimilated, in order for them to make a change, they have to come out and tell people (being radical with the tongue)...in order for their assimilation/radical self make a change in their world.

To never be radical and to assimilate completely is to never come out.

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assimilation

While I absolutely take the point that assimilation--particularly when based in that sort of apolitical materialism that tempts us all at times--can be (usually is?) less political, I'm not sure it *always* is. Assimilation is in the eye of the beholder, after all--what looks like rolling over and playing dead to some (like, creating a monogamous partnership with kids in the suburbs) may in fact be a radical political act under some circumstances.

there's a masturbate-a-thon

there's a masturbate-a-thon on my birthday!?!?! woot! my party for next year has planned itself.
but seriously, what a great idea. there is still so much stigma and controversy surrounding such a natural past time.
great article.

I'm on my way out the door

I'm on my way out the door to the True Colors concert tonight in Minneapolis, but I wanted to respond the idea of getting it on with someone's politics you don't like. Remember that smart female character who played a Republican hired on as a White House Counsel (actress was Emily Proctor) in the West Wing for a couple of years? Mmmmmm, yeah. I don't usually go for blondes but that character was smoking smart!

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i'm with you on the blond thing....

but brians in a blond sure doesn change my opinion. ;0

Is that bleached blondes or just in general all blondes??

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But Ann Coulter?

Seriously, Diana? Personally, that's my idea of Scared Straight. I'm trying to think of a right-wing hack I'd do and can't think of a single one.

Your friend,
Rusty

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hitting it

and making a life together are two completely different things.

V

Val, if I knew she was a right-wing hack

I wouldn't be able to hit it. I'd be more concerned with showing her the error of her ways. It would be more important to turn her progressive Democrat than to turn her lesbian.

Your friend,
Rusty

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Rusty, you are a better woman than I.

At least in my single days. Then turning her over would have definitely trumped any other kind of turning. We could argue before or after but there is a moment when debate just might have to turn into debauchery.

It may be bad and there is probably be some deep-seated pathology in finding pleasure by really taking/controlling someone with whom you strongly disagree politically. In any event, I think it would feel inherently like a kind of victory to pull her off message.

About conversion - Later (read: post coitally) it just might create the cognitive dissonance to open her mind and expose the irrationality of some of her positions. OK, ok, that's the intellectual justification for just wanting to hit it!

Best,

V

irrational positions

Enough said. (Except, perhaps, to say that if it was any good, I don't have enough brain cells left to exploit cognitive dissonance...endorphins as cure for hyperintellectualism...)

Good point.

i think you're on to something there.

Val, you have clearly given this some thought

Paragraph three is downright tactical.

Your friend,
Rusty

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Let's just say

that I have real world experience. ;)

V

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Oh come on Rusty! Have you

Oh come on Rusty! Have you lost your sense of humor? Like I'd actually do a femme... what would we do in bed? Bump purses?

Yes, bump purses and

Yes, bump purses and matching shoes:)

OK, but please don't even refer to Ann Coulter as a "femme"

You are skeeving me out. She's not butch, either. She's just . . . just . . . I need to go bleach my brain to get the thought of her bumping anything with anyone out of my brain pan.

Your friend,
Rusty

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Rusty darling, while I

Rusty darling, while I respect your desire to protect the femme nation maybe you need to go look at the Agent Provacateur catalog or whatever it is you butches get off too and calm down a bit. I promise never to mention Ann Coulter again. Clearly this hit the same nerve as Liederman's "I'm wearing a packy, reach up under my skirt and feel it." Actually even retyping that just made me throw up a little.

"go look at the Agent Provacateur catalog"

Excellent suggestion. I will even forgive you for re-typing that offending sentence.

Your friend,
Rusty

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Great post!! Politics is all

Great post!!
Politics is all about interacting with others, and the structures through which it is done. In this case, it means that all sex is, by definition, political. In our present society, same sex relationships subvert the status quo politically, queering the discourse!

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"queering the discourse"

i just love it. The brains at work on this site! Well said.

I don't know for others, but

I don't know for others, but for me (with IExplorer) the Red Hanky link doesn't work !

try this

http://alt.xmission.com/%7Etrevin/hanky.html

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thank you Rovermom, but the

thank you Rovermom, but the fact is that i get a 404 error message ??!!
Can you see the htm page ?

You're welcome...

You're welcome...

yes. I see the page and not an error message.

Try another browser. I stopped using IE a year ago.

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ok, thanks (i know IE is

ok, thanks (i know IE is sometime soooooo inappropriate)

but maybe the trouble is taht i don't have an american IP, maybe, let's see...

do you think "asexuality" is

do you think "asexuality" is political ?

absolutely! And if I really

absolutely!

And if I really wanted to go with labels - I'm asexual with a hint of lesbian. Out of my 36 years of life...I've been, in a total combination, all together, of maybe 2 years in a relationship(s).

which isn't much....

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gasp. Right from your heart

gasp.

Right from your heart and one of your best ones, Diana.

I find it difficult being a feminist, as to the degree of which I was sort of raised under...and being this lesbian of today. They conflict with one another.

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