it's like i woke up one day and i decied to be like this lol...... U know what mom... :D i like girlssss loooooool come onnnn althought it would be interesting knowing what are the resultss...

excuse me for being Kindergarten, but who gives a fuck about what makes people gay and what makes people straight. We are what we are and it cannot be changed. This whole studying the brains of gay and straight people to find any indication of sexuality is bullshit and is just another way people in power attempt to justify their discrimination of anyone that is different from societal "norms". It is frighteningly similar to theories of eugenics from a few decades ago, where white scientists and Nazis attempted to justify their hatred for black people and jews based on the fact that our skulls were smaller, meaning our brains had to be smaller, thus proving we were dumb. I feel like this is the direction recent studies on the homosexual brain are going. And they say history is linear...

I know that science was useful to get over religious power. I know about cartesian method, most of philosophical roots through scientific approach so, what are i'm affraid of? Scientists have many meaculpa to perfom, many wisedom to gain from their mistake, many ethical point to clarify before i allow them to play around my gay brain. I admit, i don't know exactely where do it lead and i also know it aren't gona change MY life for now. what i also know is i wont stop them by writing silly post in any forum. The least that i can do is not to applaude when they show off with those research. I mean, brain research technologie are already rent for marketting matter, What's next?

they based the study on people who identify as gay or straight, on the *presumption* that identity is concrete, totally ignoring all possible factors in identity, such as conditioning or choice.

you know, i just read an article about this. honestly, i'm not all that interesting in why people are gay. we are, big deal, get over it. why are straight people straight? why do we have love and not just a sex instinct?

i always hate when they do these studies, (probably because most of the ones that i've read so far over the years keep having this lesbians are straight men and gay men are women theory; even though i thought that the theory was that gays were exposed to more testosterone in utero) but what really bothered me was when i read the last sentence of the article (i think it was on msnbc) and it said that the scientists hoped to be able to predict someone's future sexual orientation. IS THIS FUCKING NAZI GERMANY? personally, i don't want them to be able to predict it. it's not a diease or an impediment and it doesn't fucking matter.

i don't need the scientists to tell us that it's not a choice so we can garner more acceptance. if it's not a choice, then it's just a deformity in their eyes and they'll just keep saying that we don't have to act on it. so i really don't care about the choice argument. their religion is a CHOICE yet they have plenty of people looking out for them and even laws securing their "right to religion."

another study i read theorized that same-sex attraction came from the same thing; it doesn't matter if you were male or female; your not attracted to a particular sex, you're attracted to your own sex. which i can kind of relate to because i always felt like if i was a guy i might be more into guys. might be strange, but i feel like a big part of liking women for me is that fact that i'm a woman.

i also did just read another study they did on brains and they found that straight women tended to be bisexual; males and lesbians were more fixed in their preferred gender, but straight women got pretty turned on by other women. i don't give too much creedence to these brain scans, though. the whole thing was to measure arousal when looking at pictures). i think the result could have just come from having sympathy with the subject. though they also did say that the women got turned on by wathcing monkeys having sex, and their conclusion was that women's sexuality is more "fluid." great. shouldn't they be using this money to cure cancer or something?

"Admittedly, I’ve dated a butch or four who had some Miller Light-drinking straight dude qualities; the girlfriend I caught watching a football game over my shoulder while banging me comes to mind. (If you are reading this, you know who you are.) But she also had a shoe fetish and shopping obsession that rivaled mine."

With the exception of the shoe fetish and football (unless you mean soccer), we could have been dating the same glorious butch :)

"Love has no other desire but to fulfill itself"
The Prophet - Kahlil Gibran

When these types of studies are reported in the media, I like to find out more about the context/purpose of the study, the design, and how the investigators discuss the results (not how the media interprets them). For the brain structure study, I tried to get the full text of the article available at the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States, but it wasn't available yet through library databases. You can get the article by paying a fee to the PNAS online. I'll wait.

In any case, after reading the abstract for the study, I do not believe that the investigators conflate the results to anything about our TV watching, shopping or drinking behavior.

Decades from now (if our species still inhabits the planet), I think more enlightened beings will look back on our ridiculously primative medical model and laugh at these studies. They will have evolved to a place where something mysterious and unmeasurable like a honed sensitive perception can better describe being itself in more meaningful ways. They may see us as individuals in ways that go way beyond just sexual orientation and describe our being physically, psychologically and spiritually as an indivisible whole. They won't try to look at human beings (or any other being) through the lens of a microscope, or on some CT scan, but through something else. Maybe that something else is an innate human quality we as a species are too dulled out to have developed or are still suppressing or are currently evolving. I believe the medical or scientific model is an exercise in an endless need to slice a human (and any other being) into parts that really don't exist independently from the whole.
Lezbeth