to see it. I haven't watched that mouthing part at the She-Bar and I don't care to watch again just to see if I can see it. After a while all this speculation becomes tiresome. I'm actually tired of myself writing this. I'd rather see beautiful pictures of JB ... now that IS real.
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"I'm not scared of dying, I just don't want to be there when it happens"
"I'm sorry I made you cry but at least your face is cleaner"
"If you won't leave me alone, I'll find someone who will"
I watched it twice WW02!~ And While I Did NOT see the allegedly mouthed "I Love You" I will say that It was great to have a reason to watch that again. Not that you need one.. but it helps with the addiction.. LOL
It's the classic story of "mind over matter". The Human Brain is capable of believing anything if you really really want it to be true. Another classic example is the Wizard of Oz Munchkin Hanging - which turned out to be just a Giant Crain by a tree that you see in the scene before hand.
I mean, I definitely would NOT be complaining if it JB & LuH were Secret Lovers, but I find it hard to be true. I do however believe that it's hard to make-out with someone while laying on top of them and not feel anything. Acting or not.
I've been in a quite a few plays/musicals and I discovered something I like to call the "backstage effect". Basically everytime I've been in a show- I always fall for someone. It's something about being around Actors and the excitement/nerves of performing.
I think we all wish that they are a true couple in real life, but reality pinches us all and we are left with a sigh. Jennifer knows who she is, and I dont think she or Laurel would do the very thing that they both didnt agree on from S5. "The Affair" Sorry starbug if my english is not good. lol.......
John really did get shot and had that in my head while I was writing my post. Yes, everyone, I meant to say Paul not John. Thanks OC. Wow, my memory bank is only half full.
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"I'm not scared of dying, I just don't want to be there when it happens"
"I'm sorry I made you cry but at least your face is cleaner"
"If you won't leave me alone, I'll find someone who will"
Looks like you guys were tearing up the thread tonight. I wish I could have been part of some of the topic's. My two cents on JB and LUH in love in real life. I dont believe that for one second. I am excited also knowing that our friends will be together tomorrow for the big reading of 601. And then filming the next day. WOOHOO!
Will make a cameo appearance like Jacklyn Smith did in the "Charlie's Angels" movie.
It would be kept totally secret, then JB appears on the screen on this mediocre lesbian TV show and millions of lesbians swoon and fall off their couches, their treadmills, their girlfriends.
It'll be great.
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“In my mind nothing pleases God more than love. I do not think it pleases God to codify bigotry.” Jennifer Beals
that Bette set the bar too high that no one could come close. But in a different way in that she as an actor has set the bar for lesbian characters. She is totoally phenomenal in every way!!!!! by the love those heals dam hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
The posters in the "Polite Petition for a jointPodcast of Laurel/Jennifer" are putting forth some interesting theories about JB and LH.
One poster left a detailed comment supporting her claim that Jennifer and Laurel (not Bette & Tina, their characters) are secretly in love with each other. See, apparently, they are keeping "mum" because they don't want to hurt their families and they think the fans to stop watching. Huh?!
Yeah...and JB (not Bette) cried during the 504 kiss because she loved Laurel so much and knew she could never have her. Did you guys know that? Because I didn't know that.
I had to laugh when I read it. To paraphrase Karen from "Will & Grace" (imagine squeaky, high-pitched voice), "It's funny, cuz it's not true."
Well, first I laughed, then I was astounded. I recommend reading the posts. I just hope Laurel and Jennifer don't. The things those womyn and their families have to put up with!
I guess this is the fantasy of a lot of fans. But they know it's not true. And I haven't been able to determine if the posts I'm referring to were written "tongue in cheek." I hope they were.
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“In my mind nothing pleases God more than love. I do not think it pleases God to codify bigotry.” Jennifer Beals
difficulty distinguishing the performance from the performer. Hopefully, they're just kidding. I have heard some people, however, who seem to get the actors confused with the roles.
We're all perfectly sane here, though, right? ;) After all, I'm torturing myself by watching Season 3 out of some bizarrely anal retentive compulsion to present the whole "picture" for our review and analysis. I think I need a therapist myself -- and NOT Dr. Dan!~
I only state things that have been said by both actors and even Kate (Shane) and (Leisha) kinda let the cat out of the bag somewhat lol It has just been hush hush and interviews have been edited. I am a writer so i know i have family in the business and yes there are people that do get confused with all different venues of information. I totally respect their privacy but at the same time after i had read most of the posts people wanted to know why Jenny and Laurel will not appear in anything together. It is only marketing if you hold a demand from consumers the more they want it. But when someone had said that they had hated each other and that is why they will not appear together i just had to tell something because that is sossooooooooooo far from the truth. Believe what you want just ask others to not think the worst. If you want the truth watch the she bar episode again. Jenny mouths the words (i love you Lu) and Laurel whispers (i know) the only reason IC left it in is b/c it shows that the chemisty and love is still there between these two characters (Bette & Tina) and it shows implicit tenderness. No one thought that anyone could tell. I was not the one who found it, it was a class mate in my t.v. production class. Everyone else in the class can see it. Maybe we can get others in here to look at it again and help if it is wrong then i will inform my class if not we just keep it quit and to ourselves. But i already know the answer from a higher source but i will never tell. lol.
Ive read your posts with interest.....
But have to say I think its all a load of old cobblers..and that you are just stirring the pot here...
And even if it were true, all this you say about Jennifer and Laurel who gives a shit???????They are both grown women and know what they want out of life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hi!!I watched many times this ep and i can`t find, i can`t see JB sayng that, when B and T are kissing.
They are friend or not? they like each other more than friends?
I don`t khow but they look grat together
This part of the kissing scene is difficult to see we actually had to center in on them in the middle of the kiss and had to watch carefully. They are good friends they are really close but that is all i can say.
Actually, One of the students in my class pointed it out during a class assignment. If it was ment to be heard it would have been. The scene in q is when Bette pulls Tina into a kiss by her wrist and in the middle of the kiss Bette/Jenny (it was said and shown to the class and they voted) mouths to Tina/laurel (Lu i love you)
and Tina/Laurel mouths i know i love you too. This is something again i should have not said but it was in their defense as other posters were saying that they hated each other and that is far from the truth. I had to show that they do not hate each other.
are you talking about the part right before bette starts crying?? because it seems like bettes saying i love you ..i dont know about the lu part..and then tina says i know ..but then again its just so hard to see it could very well just be them breathing and nothing was said at all
personally i agree with everyone else its a tv show. its just acting. they are just doing their job. a very good job too haha
This was at she bar in the middle of the kiss at end scene. Watch it and tell me what you see. Not me, someone in my class had seen this and picked it out in one of the assignments fot the class. If your right and they are wrong and it was only a power of suggestion then i will make them do it over again. If not we respect their privacy and keep it to ourselves agreed?
I know that you'll be shocked when others say the same thing after season 6. Trust me you have no idea whats really going on and i am sworn to secrecy. I can only tell a little the rest is up to Jenny and Laurel. Scott from Greenlight management is Jenny's agent so we will see what she is going to do. Jenny gets upset because every interview she is on so far (t.v.) keeps asking her about her orintation if anything has changed she just changes the subject she is very very good at that. lol
But if she did, I'm sure it's because she's tired of people asking her the same dumb questions, like, "What's it like to kiss a girl?" I'm sure it's because people routinely confuse her, Jennifer, with a character she's playing, thereby questioning her love for her husband and negating her marriage.
I don't think she was ever a welder either.
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“In my mind nothing pleases God more than love. I do not think it pleases God to codify bigotry.” Jennifer Beals
Jenny was not a welder but she did take classes on welding before she did flashdance to prepare for the role. Any other questions??? As for Ken, God knows that she loves him she is so into him and their 3 1/2 yr old daughter she is ssssoooooo adorable. No no one confuses her they just try to catch her off gard even when Regis Philben had asked her how she prepared for her role as a lesbian art director of the hit show 'The L Word' of which she babysat his daughters thinking he was being sly by having that advantage she would talk about it lol lol not she watches very very carefully what she says. Me unfortuately, when tired and in their defense Laurel's and Jenny"s that is i let out something i should not have because others in the post were saying that they hated each other off screen and this is far from true. Jenny talks about Ken, his two children from a previous mariage and thier daughter but not in detail but as in general.
when Regis Philben had asked her how she prepared for her role as a lesbian art director of the hit show 'The L Word' of which she babysat his daughters thinking he was being sly by having that advantage she would talk about it lol lol not she watches very very carefully what she says
JB babysat for Steve Edwards, but it was son, not a daughter. At least, that's what I gather from the interview I saw with her on "Good Day L.A."
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“In my mind nothing pleases God more than love. I do not think it pleases God to codify bigotry.” Jennifer Beals
she actually baby sat alot of different kids. One of group was Steve's son (hot hunk of a guy now) but she also has babysat Regis and Kathy's daughters as well. Amoung others
She did it a few times with Tina in Dr. Dan's office. This is one of my favorite outfits on Bette, love the blouse/jacket blazer and her hair. I think Bette/JB looks very hot in this scene. They recently showed the TLW Pilot on the LOGO channel and would you believe that they cut out the part when Dr. Wilson comes in and Bette comes out from under the white sheet and wipes her mouth. Wow, they wouldn't even show that on LOGO ... that really got to me. By the way, I just love Dr. Wilson (played by Judith Maxie). I find her attractive as well and I love her calm soothing voice.
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"I'm not scared of dying, I just don't want to be there when it happens"
"I'm sorry I made you cry but at least your face is cleaner"
"If you won't leave me alone, I'll find someone who will"
so agree. Hey Grace, nice to see you in the JB thread ! ;) Visit more often. If there aren't any great conversations going on there's always lot of pictures of JB.
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"I'm not scared of dying, I just don't want to be there when it happens"
"I'm sorry I made you cry but at least your face is cleaner"
"If you won't leave me alone, I'll find someone who will"
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WWO2, I honestly don't see it either or would I like to
to see it. I haven't watched that mouthing part at the She-Bar and I don't care to watch again just to see if I can see it. After a while all this speculation becomes tiresome. I'm actually tired of myself writing this. I'd rather see beautiful pictures of JB ... now that IS real.
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"I'm not scared of dying, I just don't want to be there when it happens"
"I'm sorry I made you cry but at least your face is cleaner"
"If you won't leave me alone, I'll find someone who will"
I watched it twice WW02!~
I watched it twice WW02!~ And While I Did NOT see the allegedly mouthed "I Love You" I will say that It was great to have a reason to watch that again. Not that you need one.. but it helps with the addiction.. LOL
I can't believe that
As many times I watched that kiss, that there was anything about it that I missed. And I mean anything.
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“In my mind nothing pleases God more than love. I do not think it pleases God to codify bigotry.” Jennifer Beals
LOL- I know I think i've
LOL- I know I think i've even got the choreography down..... ;)
So MizzzJ
Have you recreated the scene with someone you love? lol
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“In my mind nothing pleases God more than love. I do not think it pleases God to codify bigotry.” Jennifer Beals
Sorta.. Kinda... Maybe...
Sorta.. Kinda... Maybe...
Life is never as good as on TV..
;)
Hey SB!! It's the classic
Hey SB!!
It's the classic story of "mind over matter". The Human Brain is capable of believing anything if you really really want it to be true. Another classic example is the Wizard of Oz Munchkin Hanging - which turned out to be just a Giant Crain by a tree that you see in the scene before hand.
I mean, I definitely would NOT be complaining if it JB & LuH were Secret Lovers, but I find it hard to be true. I do however believe that it's hard to make-out with someone while laying on top of them and not feel anything. Acting or not.
I've been in a quite a few plays/musicals and I discovered something I like to call the "backstage effect". Basically everytime I've been in a show- I always fall for someone. It's something about being around Actors and the excitement/nerves of performing.
But that's just my 5 cents!! ♥
Jennifer and Laurel..........
I think we all wish that they are a true couple in real life, but reality pinches us all and we are left with a sigh. Jennifer knows who she is, and I dont think she or Laurel would do the very thing that they both didnt agree on from S5. "The Affair" Sorry starbug if my english is not good. lol.......
Wasn't it Paul who was supposed to be dead? That's
why he was barefoot?
Yes, OC, I stand corrected. I was actually thinking of when
John really did get shot and had that in my head while I was writing my post. Yes, everyone, I meant to say Paul not John. Thanks OC. Wow, my memory bank is only half full.
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"I'm not scared of dying, I just don't want to be there when it happens"
"I'm sorry I made you cry but at least your face is cleaner"
"If you won't leave me alone, I'll find someone who will"
HEY HEY LADIES........
Looks like you guys were tearing up the thread tonight. I wish I could have been part of some of the topic's. My two cents on JB and LUH in love in real life. I dont believe that for one second. I am excited also knowing that our friends will be together tomorrow for the big reading of 601. And then filming the next day. WOOHOO!
I'm with you!
JB pics
Lots of pics of JB at the LA Film Festival event here:
http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/Search.aspx?src=quick&contractUrl=1&fa...
Goodnight, Earthlings.......
tomorrow is the beginning
"What are you doing with my girlfriend?"
::Fingers crossed:: for
::Fingers crossed:: for GREAT Bette screentime!!!
Oh & Lots of Bette Flashbacks!!!
If there is ever another
If there is ever another lesbian series it just won't compare without JB in it.
If there is, maybe JB
Will make a cameo appearance like Jacklyn Smith did in the "Charlie's Angels" movie.
It would be kept totally secret, then JB appears on the screen on this mediocre lesbian TV show and millions of lesbians swoon and fall off their couches, their treadmills, their girlfriends.
It'll be great.
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“In my mind nothing pleases God more than love. I do not think it pleases God to codify bigotry.” Jennifer Beals
Tina was right (Laurel)
that Bette set the bar too high that no one could come close. But in a different way in that she as an actor has set the bar for lesbian characters. She is totoally phenomenal in every way!!!!! by the love those heals dam hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Okay, folks
The posters in the "Polite Petition for a jointPodcast of Laurel/Jennifer" are putting forth some interesting theories about JB and LH.
One poster left a detailed comment supporting her claim that Jennifer and Laurel (not Bette & Tina, their characters) are secretly in love with each other. See, apparently, they are keeping "mum" because they don't want to hurt their families and they think the fans to stop watching. Huh?!
Yeah...and JB (not Bette) cried during the 504 kiss because she loved Laurel so much and knew she could never have her. Did you guys know that? Because I didn't know that.
I had to laugh when I read it. To paraphrase Karen from "Will & Grace" (imagine squeaky, high-pitched voice), "It's funny, cuz it's not true."
Well, first I laughed, then I was astounded. I recommend reading the posts. I just hope Laurel and Jennifer don't. The things those womyn and their families have to put up with!
I guess this is the fantasy of a lot of fans. But they know it's not true. And I haven't been able to determine if the posts I'm referring to were written "tongue in cheek." I hope they were.
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“In my mind nothing pleases God more than love. I do not think it pleases God to codify bigotry.” Jennifer Beals
It's really a bit scary that some people really do have
difficulty distinguishing the performance from the performer. Hopefully, they're just kidding. I have heard some people, however, who seem to get the actors confused with the roles.
We're all perfectly sane here, though, right? ;) After all, I'm torturing myself by watching Season 3 out of some bizarrely anal retentive compulsion to present the whole "picture" for our review and analysis. I think I need a therapist myself -- and NOT Dr. Dan!~
I can speak only for myself
I only state things that have been said by both actors and even Kate (Shane) and (Leisha) kinda let the cat out of the bag somewhat lol It has just been hush hush and interviews have been edited. I am a writer so i know i have family in the business and yes there are people that do get confused with all different venues of information. I totally respect their privacy but at the same time after i had read most of the posts people wanted to know why Jenny and Laurel will not appear in anything together. It is only marketing if you hold a demand from consumers the more they want it. But when someone had said that they had hated each other and that is why they will not appear together i just had to tell something because that is sossooooooooooo far from the truth. Believe what you want just ask others to not think the worst. If you want the truth watch the she bar episode again. Jenny mouths the words (i love you Lu) and Laurel whispers (i know) the only reason IC left it in is b/c it shows that the chemisty and love is still there between these two characters (Bette & Tina) and it shows implicit tenderness. No one thought that anyone could tell. I was not the one who found it, it was a class mate in my t.v. production class. Everyone else in the class can see it. Maybe we can get others in here to look at it again and help if it is wrong then i will inform my class if not we just keep it quit and to ourselves. But i already know the answer from a higher source but i will never tell. lol.
EARTHQUAKER
Ive read your posts with interest.....
But have to say I think its all a load of old cobblers..and that you are just stirring the pot here...
And even if it were true, all this you say about Jennifer and Laurel who gives a shit???????They are both grown women and know what they want out of life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hi!!I watched many times
Hi!!I watched many times this ep and i can`t find, i can`t see JB sayng that, when B and T are kissing.
They are friend or not? they like each other more than friends?
I don`t khow but they look grat together
I know
This part of the kissing scene is difficult to see we actually had to center in on them in the middle of the kiss and had to watch carefully. They are good friends they are really close but that is all i can say.
Which scene from the SheBar episode
Are you referring to? When did Bette mouth "I love you" to Tina?
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“In my mind nothing pleases God more than love. I do not think it pleases God to codify bigotry.” Jennifer Beals
Well
Actually, One of the students in my class pointed it out during a class assignment. If it was ment to be heard it would have been. The scene in q is when Bette pulls Tina into a kiss by her wrist and in the middle of the kiss Bette/Jenny (it was said and shown to the class and they voted) mouths to Tina/laurel (Lu i love you)
and Tina/Laurel mouths i know i love you too. This is something again i should have not said but it was in their defense as other posters were saying that they hated each other and that is far from the truth. I had to show that they do not hate each other.
are you
are you talking about the part right before bette starts crying?? because it seems like bettes saying i love you ..i dont know about the lu part..and then tina says i know ..but then again its just so hard to see it could very well just be them breathing and nothing was said at all
personally i agree with everyone else its a tv show. its just acting. they are just doing their job. a very good job too haha
the kiss
This was at she bar in the middle of the kiss at end scene. Watch it and tell me what you see. Not me, someone in my class had seen this and picked it out in one of the assignments fot the class. If your right and they are wrong and it was only a power of suggestion then i will make them do it over again. If not we respect their privacy and keep it to ourselves agreed?
No, no confusion here
There's Bette...then there's Jennifer. There's Tina...then there's Laurel. Four different people, not including their imaginary friends. lol
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“In my mind nothing pleases God more than love. I do not think it pleases God to codify bigotry.” Jennifer Beals
lol
i am not suggesting you. I was refereing to some fans not the majority. No offense.
YES....
Some people are very confused. We're good here!
"What are you doing with my girlfriend?"
well
I know that you'll be shocked when others say the same thing after season 6. Trust me you have no idea whats really going on and i am sworn to secrecy. I can only tell a little the rest is up to Jenny and Laurel. Scott from Greenlight management is Jenny's agent so we will see what she is going to do. Jenny gets upset because every interview she is on so far (t.v.) keeps asking her about her orintation if anything has changed she just changes the subject she is very very good at that. lol
I haven't seen her get upset
But if she did, I'm sure it's because she's tired of people asking her the same dumb questions, like, "What's it like to kiss a girl?" I'm sure it's because people routinely confuse her, Jennifer, with a character she's playing, thereby questioning her love for her husband and negating her marriage.
I don't think she was ever a welder either.
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“In my mind nothing pleases God more than love. I do not think it pleases God to codify bigotry.” Jennifer Beals
Right
Jenny was not a welder but she did take classes on welding before she did flashdance to prepare for the role. Any other questions??? As for Ken, God knows that she loves him she is so into him and their 3 1/2 yr old daughter she is ssssoooooo adorable. No no one confuses her they just try to catch her off gard even when Regis Philben had asked her how she prepared for her role as a lesbian art director of the hit show 'The L Word' of which she babysat his daughters thinking he was being sly by having that advantage she would talk about it lol lol not she watches very very carefully what she says. Me unfortuately, when tired and in their defense Laurel's and Jenny"s that is i let out something i should not have because others in the post were saying that they hated each other off screen and this is far from true. Jenny talks about Ken, his two children from a previous mariage and thier daughter but not in detail but as in general.
I'm not sure what you're trying to say here
when Regis Philben had asked her how she prepared for her role as a lesbian art director of the hit show 'The L Word' of which she babysat his daughters thinking he was being sly by having that advantage she would talk about it lol lol not she watches very very carefully what she says
JB babysat for Steve Edwards, but it was son, not a daughter. At least, that's what I gather from the interview I saw with her on "Good Day L.A."
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“In my mind nothing pleases God more than love. I do not think it pleases God to codify bigotry.” Jennifer Beals
No
she actually baby sat alot of different kids. One of group was Steve's son (hot hunk of a guy now) but she also has babysat Regis and Kathy's daughters as well. Amoung others
Moving right along. Posted on 303 on the Bettro
I'm giving myself a night off tomorrow, though -- Sushi night.
Good God Jezzy are your
Good God Jezzy are your trying to kill us with that animation? Seeing Bette licking Tee does things to me I never felt before.
I never tire of looking at
I never tire of looking at Jennifer. God she is so beautiful it anen't even funny.
No it anen't ! ¡ ¿ ?
Just because....is Jennifer Beals!
What else do you want more:))

That would be..
perfection!
Where's Blabber?????
Gearing up, packing tools, making sandwiches?
"What are you doing with my girlfriend?"
Prepare for cold shower everyone...
and I know damn well you all just love when Bette licking something or anything and especially when her Tee is involve:))

I can't speak for everyone else but you know me well.
:D
Could you come here a minute please?
Yes, the ole pat on the knee that Bette does to Tina. Love it.
She did it a few times with Tina in Dr. Dan's office. This is one of my favorite outfits on Bette, love the blouse/jacket blazer and her hair. I think Bette/JB looks very hot in this scene. They recently showed the TLW Pilot on the LOGO channel and would you believe that they cut out the part when Dr. Wilson comes in and Bette comes out from under the white sheet and wipes her mouth. Wow, they wouldn't even show that on LOGO ... that really got to me. By the way, I just love Dr. Wilson (played by Judith Maxie). I find her attractive as well and I love her calm soothing voice.
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"I'm not scared of dying, I just don't want to be there when it happens"
"I'm sorry I made you cry but at least your face is cleaner"
"If you won't leave me alone, I'll find someone who will"
I'm so first amendment
I can't even think of watching a censored version of the L Word. Thought the original was censored too much!
--cg
Wise (wo)men don't judge: they seek to understand. From "Fingers Pointing Towards the Moon" by Wei Wu Wei
You don't call yourself GraceforJustice for nothing and I
so agree. Hey Grace, nice to see you in the JB thread ! ;) Visit more often. If there aren't any great conversations going on there's always lot of pictures of JB.
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"I'm not scared of dying, I just don't want to be there when it happens"
"I'm sorry I made you cry but at least your face is cleaner"
"If you won't leave me alone, I'll find someone who will"
Actually
That's what I was doing here, looking for you and your candid photos of JB! Good to see you and I'll be around.
--cg