It doesn't seem to happen THAT often to see girls in a relationship that are both really girly. I'm just wondering: Is it because 2 girls that r both very girly or either both girls that are more “tomboy-ish“ can't make it work because they kinda can't balance it out ( the dominance/submissivness) ? Do you think 1 should rather be the more boyish one and the other more the femme one? Does it look “weird“ to u to see 2 real femmes or 2 butches together? Do u consider urself “femme“ “butch“ or anything of that kind?...if yes do you prefer to be with the “opposite“ or doesn't it matter to u at all?
ps:sry if this may sound retarted but it's late and i'm tired...but still interested in ur opinions! so plz post :)
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I don't think it should matter at all...Me and my girlfriend are both kinda tomboyish...and we make it work out amazing...hehe...so I don't think labels should matter at all...It just depends on what you like and who you fall for.
he he he...
i like boobs, does that count?.... :P
I like girls, as long as are girls i'm cool, unless they're not a girl, then i'm definitely not cool.
Coz if they're not a girl i'd have to un-come out to my parents and that would be a massive hassle :)
Labels are for label-makers, i just like boobs :)
haha great statement! I
haha great statement! I like! XD
"Killing for Peace is like Fucking for Virginity."
I am Femme and I like girls who are femme too.
And as much as we keep saying that is just "a style" is not. On the contrary with straight relationships (I have had a few) style is not that important. Here in our lives it's a break point. I mean, people always assume I'm straight, and I feel bad when lesbians come to me and try to question my style or ask in a bad way that why do I look so girly. BECAUSE!!! because I am a woman and I absolutely LOVE to be one. And... that is why I like women. SO... I don't want to believe that I have to date only tomboyish girls in order to get "a balance" seriously you guys don't do that. Don't you dare to question our feminity. We have enough with random people questioning why we are into the same sex.
If you keep talking about "a balance" with masculine and feminine you are just making a strong point and reafirming that in order to be normal, a couple has to be conformed by masculine and feminine. So, what are then we lesbians???
Good point...
I have a problem with the masculine/feminine balance as well... I don't think it's necessary at all. I think couples compliment each other in other ways... x
me and my girl are sometimes
me and my girl are sometimes in a power struggle. i'm femme(ish) and she's boy(ish)...i don't like the term butch. anyway, sometimes i like to be a dirty tomboy and sometimes she likes to dress up. recently she asked to use my make up and i nearly shat myself. it made me feel a bit awkward but whatever.
it's cute when we fight over clothing.
i don't mind it.
The "straight" look
I have to share this because I think it explain why some lesbians chose to change the way they dress to fit in more. Notice I said SOME.
One night I went to a lesbian party with my friend (who happens to be straight but has mostly lesbian friends). I was wearing a black dress and knee high boots, makeup, purse, etc. As I go into the kitchen to grab a drink this girl yells at me: "what are you doing here, you are straight". I'm serious. My response was: "Am I?". I have also been at a gay club and been questioned by other lesbians about my intentions in a gay club when I am "obviously" straight. They have even inspected my nails to see if they are short. It's silly, but it happens.
as long as you are having
as long as you are having hot sex with another girl, who cares what your or her style is?
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And if my present deeds are foolish in thy sight, it may be that a foolish judge arraigns my folly.
I could never be with a
I could never be with a boyish girl, no matter how "weird" other lesbians would find my relationships with other femme girls.
But honestly I don't think others think this is weird either. And the basic importance is that YOU feel comfortable i a relationship, and not what other people may think or say.
But I don't think femme/femme-relationships is more rare than butch/femme-relationships. I think that we more often recognizes two lesbians if they are in a femme/butch-relationship, because then their roles are so obvious to us. We don't need to speculate very much if they are a couple or not, cause' if they are holding hands, we draw than conclusion automatically.
But if we see two girls holding hands, whom are both femme girls, we start to question ourself "are they a couple? or are they just friends?". In other words; it's not strange that you think that you see butch/femme-couples more often, when we register those couples more often. Perhaps you have passed A LOT of femme, lesbian girls who are indeed a couple, you have just assumed that they are straight and best friends...?
Exactly...it's because girls
Exactly...it's because girls tend to be quite touchy-feely with friends anyway. It's only if two femme girls are actually kissing it's obvious!! haha...
And I don't think it's weird at all...Who can explain what we find attractive in another soul? I have no idea why I fall in love with one person and not another... and I don't think I want to spoil the mystery...
My ex and I,both
My ex and I,both femme.
Although now...she kinda is becoming less so.
I am femme,and I like girls who are femme.
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I sincerely don't understand why so many of you get so worked up about "labels". Let it go, it's not like they're a tool to demean each other. If anything, being a butch, femme or whatever, is only a style. A style! So let it go. It irritates me like poo.
And back to the initial thread... I don't know what I am, but I'm not femme, and I'm not butch, and I don't struggle to look like an asexual creature with vague reproductive organs. I'm just hotttt . . . . jk.
And I don't mind my girl's style, but I'm prone to set my eyes on the boyish looking ones, cuz they seem to be girls I can easily talk to about music, videogames, football and anything. Femmes make me nervous.
(labels) is only a style. A
“(labels) is only a style. A style! So let it go. It irritates me like poo.“
“I'm not femme, and I'm not butch“
but ur still doing it^^... i guess we all hate those labels...but we can't help but use them to describe our “style“. it's just easier. nobody said they relate to our personality.
"Killing for Peace is like Fucking for Virginity."
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Yoh, my point exactly. :) It's like music. There are a lot of genres, and they all have their good things, and it's still music at the end of the day. And we don't just like one genre, do we? We like several and that's just healthy.
ur analogy
I totally loved your analogy.
im confused.....
Lina809 I'm seriously confused about this whole butch/femme/lipstick B/S. I'm very girlie and the first time i was called a femme was by this chick i was getting involved with but at the end it didnt' work. Shes was a butch and i guess she couldn't deal with the whole girlie drama...u know the whining like one of you said, the i don't want to get dirty and all that type of stuff. But then i had someone else called a lipstick Lez. To be honest with all of you i hate all this labeling stuff.I mean if you are a lesbian it shouldn't matter how you look like or act like"What should simply matter is the fact that YOU LOVE GIRLS". I also hate the fact that society has this perspective of lesbian being butchy. If you dont dress like a dude,act like a dude,walk like a dude.etc...You are not a lesbian. My grandmother just found out i was and the first thing she said was that i was just trying to get attention because i'm too girlie and being a lesbian does not show on me.??? weird but that's what she said. But seriously does it really matter what role you play??? No wonder why those against us think that we are all confused to a point the call it a mental illness. All because they believe that we choose who to be...Femme/Butch/Lipstick.:)
Very well said.
Alot of people out there also have a retarded belief. They say that the femmes who prefer butch women only do so because it reminds them of men... -Rolls Eyes-
I don't quite know what all that bullshit is about, lol. Last time I checked, in order for someone to reminisce about men, there might need to be a little something else in those pants, besides a vagina. Women love women- and if certain preferences exsist, so be it. I have been caught up in the butch attraction for awhile, but by no means does that indicate that I wouldn't date a femme- I would absolutely date one! I would date the woman who loved me and treated me right- I don't give a damn what style she maintains.
That's why me and mine work so well. Besides a joke here and there about how girly I am, and about how much of a boy she can be at times- it's hardly mentioned as a factor in our relationship.
I like women.
I like women. Butch/femme/andro it doesn't matter because I've had physical attractions to all those "labels". The personality is what consumes me :]
People are asking me this now
I recently came out and people ask me what kind of girl that I like. I guess I would be considered a femme. I tend to gravitate more towards the girls who are tomboyish, but not butch. if that makes any sense. They don't wear men's clothing but you won't see them in dresses or heels everyday. I like natural beauties.
Doesn't matter, no it's not weird.
My gf and I can both do the spectrum (me alot more than her).. Last night I initially wanted to wear a shirt and tie to this pride party (I know in other threads I said I don't like pride but this was worth it)... and I ended up wearing heels and a halter top instead. So it goes. Nothing looks weird to me anymore. I've seen it all.
I'm a stem I suppose...one
I'm a stem I suppose...one of my friends called me that and said I was a mix between a femme and a stud. I personally am attracted to any type of girl no matter how butch, femme, old, or young...well maybe the young factor matters a bit lol. I love women...that's all that really matters.
I'm myself and as an
I'm myself and as an ordinary person I feel rather incomplete so I am attracted to people I believe can make me feel complete... Femme, butch, tomboy... I pay more attention to the face and the mind under the clothes (and this is not a sexual innuendo :P)
I don't like very much girls with shaved heads though...
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And if my present deeds are foolish in thy sight, it may be that a foolish judge arraigns my folly.
i'm a femme who is all about
i'm a femme who is all about femme's, i just get turned out by girly things. sometimes it does get ruined by guys always trying to get in the middle of it, but i also think that is funny, like some guy drooling over a situation that he can't be apart of.
Le femme
I am what you would call a femme or even lipstick lesbian. I am attracted to fun witty confident girls, regardless of what they are wearing. Lis182, I know what you mean. It's pretty annoying that people think you are putting on a show just because you don't fit the stereotype of femme/butch. Some guys even think it's ok to make comments like "can I join you ladies?". Just stupid.
In the other hand, even lesbians discriminate and judge based on appearance. There is this "untold rule" that you must dress the part to fit in. You must be this or that.
Stereotypes can be so wrong too. Just because you dress girlie, it doesn't mean you are submissive in bed or always a bottom. Just because you dress like a "butch" doesn't mean you are always top. Never judge a book by its cover. Take time to read it, it could be fun.
Oh my God, don't even get me
Oh my God, don't even get me started on the 'Can I join you ladies' bit...haha... seriously!! Was in a club at pride on Saturday and no matter how many times I pointed at my massive rainbow wristband and said 'I'm gay. I don't sleep with men' I still got hassled!!
I completely agree with you about the assumptions too. Sometimes I'm tempted to change my image to be more 'lesbian'. But it's not me. I spent most of my life denying who I am, now that I'm coming out to everyone, I'm not about to start a whole new false identity. I still like dressing like a girl! lol
And anyway... I'd look ridiculous as andro/butch... I'd just never be able to pull it off like some girls can... haha
At least I can challenge stereotypes by being myself I guess...In some small way.
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i love ur username xD and i
i love ur username xD and i agree with what u said. i wish there was more femme/femme thingy going on...damnit femmes are so hot =P
"Killing for Peace is like Fucking for Virginity."
and wth do i never see 2
and wth do i never see 2 femmes together?? aaah frustrating =P always butch/butch...i try not to label myself, but if i had to i guess i'm somewhere in between femme and andro. i'm def not butch. and i'm also attracted to other femmes.
"Killing for Peace is like Fucking for Virginity."
I consider my girlfriend and
I consider my girlfriend and I femme (not lipstick) and our relationship has been working perfectly fine for the past 2 and a half years. But in the end it's not about labels, it's about love, respect, honesty and trust. That's what makes a relationship work.
I don't always understand
I don't always understand women :D No offense. But it's like saying a tall guy can't be with a short fat woman.
Never really understood these lesbian stereotypes.
Why can't it be simple as I like blondes or I like brunettes? :D Why does it have to be, I don't date femmes, I don't date butches, I don't date tomboys, I don't date bisexuals.
Very difficult for some to find anyone after a long list of requirements.
I concur :]
I concur :]
I'm
femme, I guess, and my girlfriend is tomboy, def. not femme and def. not butch.
I don't think personally, I could deal with a femme. I really can't stand women. Is that odd? Some of my friends are amazed that I'm dating a woman, cause I can't stand them. I shouldn't say that, I can't stand prissy women, who whine and freak out if they get dirty, or girls who just sit and gossip all day...they drive me insane...
Femme doesn't mean prissy
Femme doesn't mean prissy though, don't forget. I'm femme, I take care of myself but I don't whine, I know DIY when I need to and I NEVER gossip. You might be confusing touch-me-nots/airheads/girly-girly-girls with femmes.
lol....
*she goes to lie down...*
Maybe this explains my Friday night!!
Maybe this explains my Friday night!! lol
A girl and I were kissing in a club on Friday night. I'm femme and she's definitely femme... anyway, all these people started taking pictures of us?!! I just didn't understand. I mean, it's a gay club... what's so odd about two girls kissing?
But I thought about it, and it seems whenever I kiss really girly girls, people tend to stare like it's for show or something. Very frustrating!! lol
To answer the rest of your questions:
I don't go around labelling myself but if I have to I would say I'm very femme in terms of looks. To me it's completely natural (and hot, lol) to see two femme girls together.
Something to remember is that how you look does not reflect your personality, in terms of dominant/submissive, if that's your angle. I've been the chaser and the chased.
:)
I feel like butch with butch
I feel like butch with butch is rarer than femme with femme...mainly I see a lot of couples where one is definitely femme and one is definitely butch, or they're both pretty androgynous.
butch & butch is really,
butch & butch is really, weird !
personally i prefer be butch, and be with a femme
I'm not like a lipstick
I'm not like a lipstick lesbian but I'm not butch...I guess I kind of consider myself femme, and I tend to like really femme girls.
So I guess it's not weird to me at all, because I'm one of those femme on femme girls. Haha.
I used to be a real
I used to be a real tomboy. But now I'm more I guess you could say androgynous, I can be dominant but I can also be submissive, I can choose to be boyish and I can choose to be girlish. It depends on who I'm with, shrug.
Femme with femme looks fine, I have no problem with it like it doesn't look weird. Butch with butch however, I've never seen, so it's more unusual to me I guess?
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