Yes, it is more than a rumor.. EB will be playing "the straight girl that got away" from Bette during college. There are multiple announcements out there.. just google and they pop right up.
Annoyed....I am more than annoyed.. .heavy sigh....
IC don't screw this up......a Tibette break up would spell doom for any spin-off for which ever character... I know that I would stay as far away from any IC production as I could if she breaks up Bette and Tina. I don't think I would be the only one.
I think it would be funny if James had a storyline where he hooks up with Max and ends up revealing some juicy secretes about Bette. He's been with her for along time (since the CAC days) so he's seen and heard a lot.
I love it when Bette says "Fuck You James, just fuck you."
Another tidbit from twop.. Someone posted this over there after some espionage...
They were filming a scene today in an art gallery, which had been renamed the Kelly Wentworth Gallery. It was a scene with Bette and Jodi having an argument. There was also a separate scene with Laurel Holloman with a bunch of extras (gallery patrons, I guess).
As the final season of The L Word began filming, Showtime announced there is an L Word Spin off in development by creator Ilene Chaiken.
The new show will follow one of the series' current characters, and its storyline will most likely be introduced during the series' final season, with the finale leaving the door open for the Spin off There is no title yet.
L-word.com sources says the show will first be aired only online. It is not certain that it will air on television. Showtime President Robert Greenblatt wouldn't say which character would be spun off, though he added that the actress in question doesn't even know about the possible series yet.
Sources speculated who the possible Spin off might be centered around. This is what we received:
Alice.
Not likely. Leisha Hailey is focusing on her music.
Tina.
Not likely. Laurel is working on a development deal with Fox.
Bette.
Not likely. She wants some time off.
It is, likely:
Jenny, Max, Shane, Jodi, Kit, Tasha or Helena.
um.. its like.. a continuation of a series after it ends.. but with a different storyline and a different cast, usually. i probably didn't explain that very well. look it up. haha
I think I got it... It will be the L word with different actors and other story... Then why don't they make a totally brand new show, with a new name???
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And if my present deeds are foolish in thy sight, it may be that a foolish judge arraigns my folly.
* Ex-Prison Break convict Rockmond Dunbar is doing a career 180 with a recurring role on The L Word. He'll play a drag queen with a mad crush on Pam Grier.
Tina and Bette should get married, i like the angelica's party idea, alice with someone like Dana, Helena and Dylan together, Jodi with a good woman and a very good friendship with Bette, Shane, Shane what we should do with Shane, someone like Carmen, Shane got every kind of relashionship but the best one was with Carmen, Papi!!!! where's Papi??? Kit with Angus, Jenny and Marina together. I would like to see Ilene in the serie, you did the best lesbian serie, thanx for everything, you can do whatever you want at the end on the L word, luv u a lot, greetings from ecuador....
L WORD, THE #603 LMFAO 07/16/08 MAYRS/BRANDSTATTER Waiter Episodics
L WORD, THE #603 LMFAO 07/16/08 MAYRS/BRANDSTATTER Marie Episodics
L WORD, THE #603 LMFAO 07/16/08 MAYRS/BRANDSTATTER Tina's Assistant Episodics
L WORD, THE #603 LMFAO 07/16/08 MAYRS/BRANDSTATTER Bartender Episodics
L WORD, THE #603 LMFAO 07/16/08 MAYRS/BRANDSTATTER Jill Lion Episodics
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Somewhere else was talking about a drunk girl as well. I wonder which of these is the drunk girl and how is she relating?
I just read last night that Lauren Lee Smith is joining the cast of CSI this coming season. She is supposed to be taking over for Sara . Sorry she won,t be on The L Word.....but we can still see her on tv. (ugh she probably will be straight)wouldn,t that be cool if she was gay on the show:) What a way to shake it up!!LOL:)Oh and I didn,t mean ugh toward straight people(I have fallen for a straight girl or 2 )Ugh she may have to kiss a man!!
Well, it's already confirmed that Lauren Lee Smith will join the graveyard shift in CSI:Las Vegas. To me, this is a very good step fro LLS because CSI is a well-known and highly-appreciated series. This time, I think, she will be given a big role unlike in the L-word wherein she was really just a minor character eventhough she actually was the love in Dana's life for most of the time. I'm really very excited about CSI 9. Imagine our beloved sous-chef processing dead human bodies instead of chickens!Cool!
On the negative side, of course we may conclude that with her addition to CSI, she won't be coming back for the final season of the L-Word. But we could only hope that Miss Ilene would at least give us a glimpse of Lara in the final episode of the final season. For me, she was really a charm in the series.
Yes, it really would be nice to see a glimpse of her .It would be nice to see how she has been doing since Danas death(I hate writing that)CSI is such a fantastic career move for her,I agree that she will have a much bigger role. It will be so cool to see how she acts in this show,and if we will get a hint of her Lara character.
First of all, I also hate writing and reading about Dana's death. Even after 2 seasons of her not being on the show, I still could not get over it. Hmmm, when you said a hint of Lara, does that mean if ever, you want Lauren's character in CSI to be gay? I admit, I would want that! I think there's no gay lead character on any of the CSI franchise (LV, Miami and NY). Well of course CSI is not actually a series of "relationships". But still, like you said, I also want to see a "splash" of Lara in CSI.
I really want to know your opinion on this one. If ever Ilene would call LLS for a guest appearance in season 6 of L-word, how do you like Lara to be? Not so many agree with the Alice/Lara relationship so what's your take on this?
I would feel so happy and proud if they ever made Laurens character on CSI gay. Unfortunately, I don,t believe they would. They coulddo it so easily though. I mean there is always such an aura of mystery surrounding new characters.
If she(Lara) were to come back for a season 6 appearance,I believe that she would have gone through major changes. I really am not that fond of an Alice/Lara relationship. I like to believe that they will always have an unbreakable bond and an uncanny ability to provide comfort to each other like noone else could.. But romantically..ahhh maybe sometime in the future. I would really be interested to see how Lara has grown,and what she has been doing.
I would also want to see her character grow up. I mean in her guest appearances in seasons 1-3, there was certainly no development on her character. She was just there to make us 'awwww' with cuteness (especially when she's with Dana)! The whole alice/dana thing, was more of "friends with benefits (well, sexual benefits to be exact)". But if ever Lara would be back in season 6, I would still love her to somewhat have a friendly connection with alice.
By the way, I love how you put it: "they will always have an unbreakable bond and an uncanny ability to provide comfort to each other like noone else could..." Certainly how I would also describe them.=D
Oh ,I cannot ever imagine them bringing back Lara and not having her be super friendly with Alice.She would most likely be brought in to either test out Alice,s relationship......(which I believe would greatly diminish the specialness of Alice/Lara ,s incredible bond)or bring her back to be with Alice and ride off into the sunset(cough cough I hate that term)but you know what I mean. Thank-You!That is the only way to describe them.
Wow this is the end of an excellent show. What would I like to see? Shane needs a reality check on how to treat a woman and commit to one . Hurting Jenny like that last season was really an eye opener her to how messed up Shane really is on the show. It obviously doesn't work having Shane stay away from women so bring Carmen back to help Shane get it together.
Jenny she actually needs someone stable in her life to keep her from getting totally weird and spacey. Helena hum find her a decent woman...Alice listens to her maybe they would balance each other out and have Dana pop back in to remind Alice to let herself be happy . Kit needs back on track maybe she will be now that Angelica had that gun in her hand ...maybe that was a reality check to show Kit how precious life really is ...come on she should have someone decent in her life too.
Jodi and Bette need to mend the fences and be friends not enemies.
Tina and Bette wow they should be able to finally have it all friendship, partnership ,family ,happiness they have been through the ringer big time .Let them grow old together they have already found their way back .Oh bring them all back together for an ending to remember ...not a horrible one ...but a real ending or at least with it open ended like other shows do just in case they ever do a reunion or a squell.
I am kinda ticked that the show is ending and franlkly speaking I think it is our fault. These actors that we picked apart have real feelings that were not acknowledged when people spent time talking about there looks. The writters have feelings and were doing the best they could. It was the people who watched and had nothing to do but complained the ruined the show. I agree with most of your comments Irishrunner38, and by the way your real cute.
The occasional Peggy Peabody Word of the Day is: Pithy.
Why? Because it's such a great word, just like Peggy Peabody is one hell of a dame and, there's nothing like a dame -- which doesn't have anything to do with the meaning of pithy, but Peggy manages to throw out her share of pithy comments in her limited appearances in The L Word World. So, use it in a power sentence of your own and enjoy!
. . . as long as she's around for a while (you know, til episode 7, say) and has a glorious death, I'll be o.k. with that. Because, if anyone can die well, it will be PP.
I hope they bring Carmen back I wanted to see her do a crazy ass whooping on shane i think she needs to get that out but on a lighter note i thought they were really good together =)
I heard that Dylan is coming back, which will be awesome. I always thought her and Helena had unfinished business.
I want Alice and Tasha to break up. I just don't see them together well at all. I felt like Alice didn't grieve much over Dana's death. Anyway, I liked that chick she almost hooked up with at the end of season 5. That was way cute.
And of course, more Bette and Tina. I think they should just get married. No more kids.
I don't think so coz on the Q&A video with Clementine Ford and Kate Moennig, Kate said she would like a Carmen come back but Sara Shahi is on another show and she won't come back...
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bette and tina together more and more love
alice and helena would be perfect,what do u think?,a little crazy but i think they belong together for all the years that they have been together as bff.
Shane and jenny?hehehe kill me now!!!!!i have no idea how will this 2 characters end up.
Tasha??????tasha was too much last season
phyllis go back to men........
peggy and james?hahahahah...that would be impossible.or maybe some young hot actor or i can say George clonney,brad pitt?lol
kit go back to angus
max???she became she.not really she but homo homo...she likes men or gay men.bi like alice...she has a bf.bff,bestfriend of jodi,forgot the name.
jobi,went to india to iraq
papi with shane.....silly hahahaha
yes i agree, Shane & Jenny??? does not make any sense.. it is only gonna kill the show and anger viewers... i'd say jenny & niki work their shit out and stick together.
something; antything about where Tina came from and why she appears to have NO FAMILY contact/mention. Tina has been through divorce, birth, new relationships with no mention of family. Makes no sense!!
but no more shane....too much shane in season 5.......this character is BORING......since five years and she got a lot of screen time past season .....
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Elizabeth Berkley and Bette...
Yes, it is more than a rumor.. EB will be playing "the straight girl that got away" from Bette during college. There are multiple announcements out there.. just google and they pop right up.
Annoyed....I am more than annoyed.. .heavy sigh....
IC don't screw this up......a Tibette break up would spell doom for any spin-off for which ever character... I know that I would stay as far away from any IC production as I could if she breaks up Bette and Tina. I don't think I would be the only one.
James, Bette's assistant
I think it would be funny if James had a storyline where he hooks up with Max and ends up revealing some juicy secretes about Bette. He's been with her for along time (since the CAC days) so he's seen and heard a lot.
I love it when Bette says "Fuck You James, just fuck you."
SPOILER
Another tidbit from twop.. Someone posted this over there after some espionage...
They were filming a scene today in an art gallery, which had been renamed the Kelly Wentworth Gallery. It was a scene with Bette and Jodi having an argument. There was also a separate scene with Laurel Holloman with a bunch of extras (gallery patrons, I guess).
if Peggy Peabody is to die,
I would like her to have a conversation with Bette, that in retrospect points Bette in the direction she should next go.
Bette and Peggy have a connection -- a respect and affection that I've always liked -- Peggy having a hand in Bette's next move makes sense.
The second parts
Never are goods and without our two amazing womans hhhhmmmmm i must to see it.
Look at that people enjoy it:
http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=4wkjcM9klUY
The L word Spin-Off
Good news everybody.... I guess Ilene Chaiken finally or at least listening to "the L word" diehard fans
The Link:
http://www.l-word.com/news/spinoff.php
http://www.thelwordonline.com/lword_spinoff.html
As the final season of The L Word began filming, Showtime announced there is an L Word Spin off in development by creator Ilene Chaiken.
The new show will follow one of the series' current characters, and its storyline will most likely be introduced during the series' final season, with the finale leaving the door open for the Spin off There is no title yet.
L-word.com sources says the show will first be aired only online. It is not certain that it will air on television. Showtime President Robert Greenblatt wouldn't say which character would be spun off, though he added that the actress in question doesn't even know about the possible series yet.
Sources speculated who the possible Spin off might be centered around. This is what we received:
Alice.
Not likely. Leisha Hailey is focusing on her music.
Tina.
Not likely. Laurel is working on a development deal with Fox.
Bette.
Not likely. She wants some time off.
It is, likely:
Jenny, Max, Shane, Jodi, Kit, Tasha or Helena.
spinoff?
I just read that there might be a spinoff after the L word ends!! check it out.
http://www.afterellen.com/blog/malinda/showtime-announces-l-word-spinoff
what's a
what's a "spinoff"?
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um.. its like.. a
um.. its like.. a continuation of a series after it ends.. but with a different storyline and a different cast, usually. i probably didn't explain that very well. look it up. haha
I think I got it... It will
I think I got it... It will be the L word with different actors and other story... Then why don't they make a totally brand new show, with a new name???
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And if my present deeds are foolish in thy sight, it may be that a foolish judge arraigns my folly.
thats what they are doing.
thats what they are doing. its a NEW show. it wont be the L Word anymore.
::: SPOILER ALERT ::
Read this on the news today...
* Ex-Prison Break convict Rockmond Dunbar is doing a career 180 with a recurring role on The L Word. He'll play a drag queen with a mad crush on Pam Grier.
Tina and Bette should get
Tina and Bette should get married, i like the angelica's party idea, alice with someone like Dana, Helena and Dylan together, Jodi with a good woman and a very good friendship with Bette, Shane, Shane what we should do with Shane, someone like Carmen, Shane got every kind of relashionship but the best one was with Carmen, Papi!!!! where's Papi??? Kit with Angus, Jenny and Marina together. I would like to see Ilene in the serie, you did the best lesbian serie, thanx for everything, you can do whatever you want at the end on the L word, luv u a lot, greetings from ecuador....
Title for episode 3 is supposed to be..
LMFAO!!
That is according to another website!
SPOILER ALERT
These are the actual character roles
L WORD, THE #603 LMFAO 07/16/08 MAYRS/BRANDSTATTER Waiter Episodics
L WORD, THE #603 LMFAO 07/16/08 MAYRS/BRANDSTATTER Marie Episodics
L WORD, THE #603 LMFAO 07/16/08 MAYRS/BRANDSTATTER Tina's Assistant Episodics
L WORD, THE #603 LMFAO 07/16/08 MAYRS/BRANDSTATTER Bartender Episodics
L WORD, THE #603 LMFAO 07/16/08 MAYRS/BRANDSTATTER Jill Lion Episodics
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Somewhere else was talking about a drunk girl as well. I wonder which of these is the drunk girl and how is she relating?
do tell
What is the website.
I saw it on
Twop, but this is where it came from:
http://sidesexpress.com/se_index.cfm?task=pname&locid=5&pt=1
More info on 603
This comes from Montjuic at Tibette.com
Additional info for 603 - LMFAO
Role names for:
Waiter
Marie
Tina´s Assistant
Bartender
Tina's stepping up. She will have an assistant. I hope that gives her more play time with Bette and Angelica.
thank you
thank you
or maybe she can have an
or maybe she can have an affair with a female assistant and split again... ok, I know you hate me...
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I don't want to see any cheating...
with Bette and Tina...I can't stand the thought.
I want back Gabby Devaux or
I want back Gabby Devaux or whatever she was called!!! And Lauren Lee Smith... the hottest girl in the show!
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And if my present deeds are foolish in thy sight, it may be that a foolish judge arraigns my folly.
I just read last night that
I just read last night that Lauren Lee Smith is joining the cast of CSI this coming season. She is supposed to be taking over for Sara . Sorry she won,t be on The L Word.....but we can still see her on tv. (ugh she probably will be straight)wouldn,t that be cool if she was gay on the show:) What a way to shake it up!!LOL:)Oh and I didn,t mean ugh toward straight people(I have fallen for a straight girl or 2 )Ugh she may have to kiss a man!!
Positive and Negative for LLS
Well, it's already confirmed that Lauren Lee Smith will join the graveyard shift in CSI:Las Vegas. To me, this is a very good step fro LLS because CSI is a well-known and highly-appreciated series. This time, I think, she will be given a big role unlike in the L-word wherein she was really just a minor character eventhough she actually was the love in Dana's life for most of the time. I'm really very excited about CSI 9. Imagine our beloved sous-chef processing dead human bodies instead of chickens!Cool!
On the negative side, of course we may conclude that with her addition to CSI, she won't be coming back for the final season of the L-Word. But we could only hope that Miss Ilene would at least give us a glimpse of Lara in the final episode of the final season. For me, she was really a charm in the series.
Yes, it really would be nice
Yes, it really would be nice to see a glimpse of her .It would be nice to see how she has been doing since Danas death(I hate writing that)CSI is such a fantastic career move for her,I agree that she will have a much bigger role. It will be so cool to see how she acts in this show,and if we will get a hint of her Lara character.
A hint of Lara...
First of all, I also hate writing and reading about Dana's death. Even after 2 seasons of her not being on the show, I still could not get over it. Hmmm, when you said a hint of Lara, does that mean if ever, you want Lauren's character in CSI to be gay? I admit, I would want that! I think there's no gay lead character on any of the CSI franchise (LV, Miami and NY). Well of course CSI is not actually a series of "relationships". But still, like you said, I also want to see a "splash" of Lara in CSI.
I really want to know your opinion on this one. If ever Ilene would call LLS for a guest appearance in season 6 of L-word, how do you like Lara to be? Not so many agree with the Alice/Lara relationship so what's your take on this?
I would feel so happy and
I would feel so happy and proud if they ever made Laurens character on CSI gay. Unfortunately, I don,t believe they would. They coulddo it so easily though. I mean there is always such an aura of mystery surrounding new characters.
If she(Lara) were to come back for a season 6 appearance,I believe that she would have gone through major changes. I really am not that fond of an Alice/Lara relationship. I like to believe that they will always have an unbreakable bond and an uncanny ability to provide comfort to each other like noone else could.. But romantically..ahhh maybe sometime in the future. I would really be interested to see how Lara has grown,and what she has been doing.
I agree
I would also want to see her character grow up. I mean in her guest appearances in seasons 1-3, there was certainly no development on her character. She was just there to make us 'awwww' with cuteness (especially when she's with Dana)! The whole alice/dana thing, was more of "friends with benefits (well, sexual benefits to be exact)". But if ever Lara would be back in season 6, I would still love her to somewhat have a friendly connection with alice.
By the way, I love how you put it: "they will always have an unbreakable bond and an uncanny ability to provide comfort to each other like noone else could..." Certainly how I would also describe them.=D
Oh ,I cannot ever imagine
Oh ,I cannot ever imagine them bringing back Lara and not having her be super friendly with Alice.She would most likely be brought in to either test out Alice,s relationship......(which I believe would greatly diminish the specialness of Alice/Lara ,s incredible bond)or bring her back to be with Alice and ride off into the sunset(cough cough I hate that term)but you know what I mean. Thank-You!That is the only way to describe them.
Marina
bring back Marina to be with Jenny....
Tibette forever
season six
Wow this is the end of an excellent show. What would I like to see? Shane needs a reality check on how to treat a woman and commit to one . Hurting Jenny like that last season was really an eye opener her to how messed up Shane really is on the show. It obviously doesn't work having Shane stay away from women so bring Carmen back to help Shane get it together.
Jenny she actually needs someone stable in her life to keep her from getting totally weird and spacey. Helena hum find her a decent woman...Alice listens to her maybe they would balance each other out and have Dana pop back in to remind Alice to let herself be happy . Kit needs back on track maybe she will be now that Angelica had that gun in her hand ...maybe that was a reality check to show Kit how precious life really is ...come on she should have someone decent in her life too.
Jodi and Bette need to mend the fences and be friends not enemies.
Tina and Bette wow they should be able to finally have it all friendship, partnership ,family ,happiness they have been through the ringer big time .Let them grow old together they have already found their way back .Oh bring them all back together for an ending to remember ...not a horrible one ...but a real ending or at least with it open ended like other shows do just in case they ever do a reunion or a squell.
Shell
age of reason
I am kinda ticked that the show is ending and franlkly speaking I think it is our fault. These actors that we picked apart have real feelings that were not acknowledged when people spent time talking about there looks. The writters have feelings and were doing the best they could. It was the people who watched and had nothing to do but complained the ruined the show. I agree with most of your comments Irishrunner38, and by the way your real cute.
Peggy Peabody Campaign!
More Peggy Peabody. Please!
The occasional Peggy Peabody Word of the Day is: Pithy.
Why? Because it's such a great word, just like Peggy Peabody is one hell of a dame and, there's nothing like a dame -- which doesn't have anything to do with the meaning of pithy, but Peggy manages to throw out her share of pithy comments in her limited appearances in The L Word World. So, use it in a power sentence of your own and enjoy!
I think she dies.
I think she dies.
well, but when?
. . . as long as she's around for a while (you know, til episode 7, say) and has a glorious death, I'll be o.k. with that. Because, if anyone can die well, it will be PP.
Peggy Peabody
I so agree! Bring her back and hoping to see more of her in Season 6!
bring her back
I hope they bring Carmen back I wanted to see her do a crazy ass whooping on shane i think she needs to get that out but on a lighter note i thought they were really good together =)
I heard that Dylan is coming
I heard that Dylan is coming back, which will be awesome. I always thought her and Helena had unfinished business.
I want Alice and Tasha to break up. I just don't see them together well at all. I felt like Alice didn't grieve much over Dana's death. Anyway, I liked that chick she almost hooked up with at the end of season 5. That was way cute.
And of course, more Bette and Tina. I think they should just get married. No more kids.
Sharmen's back???
I've been reading in many places that Carmen is back... someone knows if that is true???
sarah shahi
Bring Carmen back for the final season. bring back marina too.
I don't think so coz on the
I don't think so coz on the Q&A video with Clementine Ford and Kate Moennig, Kate said she would like a Carmen come back but Sara Shahi is on another show and she won't come back...
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if she comes back i may die.
if she comes back i may die.
hopings for season 6
bette and tina together more and more love
alice and helena would be perfect,what do u think?,a little crazy but i think they belong together for all the years that they have been together as bff.
Shane and jenny?hehehe kill me now!!!!!i have no idea how will this 2 characters end up.
Tasha??????tasha was too much last season
phyllis go back to men........
peggy and james?hahahahah...that would be impossible.or maybe some young hot actor or i can say George clonney,brad pitt?lol
kit go back to angus
max???she became she.not really she but homo homo...she likes men or gay men.bi like alice...she has a bf.bff,bestfriend of jodi,forgot the name.
jobi,went to india to iraq
papi with shane.....silly hahahaha
I completely agree... Alice
I completely agree... Alice and Helena would be hot! However I don't like Jenny and Shane in the same sentence together, it irks me.
lol
yes i agree, Shane & Jenny??? does not make any sense.. it is only gonna kill the show and anger viewers... i'd say jenny & niki work their shit out and stick together.
season six airtime
Alot of Bette and Tina
Bring Carmen back
Bring Ivan back but as a femme, Kelly Lynch is gorgeous and I will like to see that, lets not cover it up by making her look like a dude (she's hot).
More of Alice....I will like to see Alice and Helena together, I always thought that would happen.
TINA's BACK STORY -
something; antything about where Tina came from and why she appears to have NO FAMILY contact/mention. Tina has been through divorce, birth, new relationships with no mention of family. Makes no sense!!
Tina...?
Well hell yes! Can't get enough of her! Want to know about her past and family story for sure.
ok for tina
but no more shane....too much shane in season 5.......this character is BORING......since five years and she got a lot of screen time past season .....
no, you confuse "great" with
no, you confuse "great" with "hot"... :P
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