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Obama Clusters
June 23, 2008 - 7:49am — Gloria Bigelow
“Excuse me, do you have any Organic Raisin Bran Clusters?”
Man in tropical shirt, “Uh, nah we’re out of it.”
Trying to hide my anxiety, “Do you have any in the back?”
Man in tropical shirt, “Hey, Dave, do we have any more Organic Raisin Bran Clusters in the back?”
Dave shakes his head, no.
Tropical Man: “Nah, we’re out.”
“When are you getting it back in?”
“I don’t know, it depends.”
Depends: On what? The weather? My shoe size? The rising prices of collard greens? What?
“Where is the manager? You’re trying to ruin my career.”
I wandered around Trader Joe’s, glassy-eyed and lost. Where is my fiber? How am I gonna get my fiber? How am I gonna live without the fiber?
I’ve had to make a lot of changes lately in my life. Change is hard for me. I am a creature of habit. I have my Organic Raisin Bran Clusters with berries and yogurt every morning. I have warm water and lemon after my breakfast. I then walk my dog at 8:07, right after I watch the hot Ann Curry deliver the morning's top news stories.
Imagine me standing in Trader Joe’s waiting for the manager, getting his number and schedule, and telling him the importance of this cereal to my overall well-being. He nodded in that “Okay, crazy lady," way. And I told him that I would be calling him tomorrow to check on the status.
I stood looking at all of the cereals, shaking my head saying, “This is not good. This is not good, Gloria.” I closed my eyes, reached for a box, and prayed that the Vanilla Almond Clusters would do the trick.
In Union Square, I sat with a friend having an iced coffee when a 100-footer (Thank you for teaching me that two weeks ago.) approached my friend and me. She was a salt and pepper dyke. She was selling Obama pins. My friend and I exchanged the “Are you kidding me?" glance.
“Do you ladies want an Obama pin?”
She pulled out her stash of paraphernalia. They had little cartoon cat and dog faces on them that said Obama 2008. I got up to put my empty coffee cup into the trash. I came back to my friend sitting there with two pins — one cat and one dog.
I looked at her sideways.
In her Jamaican accent, “We have to convert. It’s time. I got us pins.”
“It’s too soon,” I said. “I can’t do it.”
“Cat or dog?” she pushed.
“Bird!”
"No bird. Cat or dog?"
After some considerable thought, I chose the cat pin. We looked at each other, sighed, nodded and put on our animal Obama pins. It’s still not exactly real to me. Some mornings I forget my pin. Sometimes I move it from my right front pocket to my left front pocket. Sometimes I even get poked by the pin, and I get really pissy when that happens.
Photo. www.catsforobama.com
Change is hard for me, but that day I did it. I didn’t want to go without breakfast, and I certainly didn’t want to have bacon and eggs every morning. So I went with Vanilla Almond Clusters. No, it’s not Organic Raisin Bran Clusters. But I had to do it. I went with Vanilla Almond Clusters because… they both have clusters… and clusters are tasty, and I like them, and Vanilla Almond Clusters also have almonds… and almonds are good for me. And I don’t want John McCain as my next president... so I went with Obama.
And no, there is not enough fiber in my cereal, but it’s good enough for now. It’s sweet, it has clusters and it is filling the void.
So, I went with Obama... because he has enough clusters, and if we don’t get behind him, I’ll be having something similar to bacon and eggs every morning for the next four years. And that just wouldn’t be good for me, would it?
Man in tropical shirt, “Uh, nah we’re out of it.”
Trying to hide my anxiety, “Do you have any in the back?”
Man in tropical shirt, “Hey, Dave, do we have any more Organic Raisin Bran Clusters in the back?”
Dave shakes his head, no.
Tropical Man: “Nah, we’re out.”
“When are you getting it back in?”
“I don’t know, it depends.”
Depends: On what? The weather? My shoe size? The rising prices of collard greens? What?
“Where is the manager? You’re trying to ruin my career.”
I wandered around Trader Joe’s, glassy-eyed and lost. Where is my fiber? How am I gonna get my fiber? How am I gonna live without the fiber?
I’ve had to make a lot of changes lately in my life. Change is hard for me. I am a creature of habit. I have my Organic Raisin Bran Clusters with berries and yogurt every morning. I have warm water and lemon after my breakfast. I then walk my dog at 8:07, right after I watch the hot Ann Curry deliver the morning's top news stories.
Imagine me standing in Trader Joe’s waiting for the manager, getting his number and schedule, and telling him the importance of this cereal to my overall well-being. He nodded in that “Okay, crazy lady," way. And I told him that I would be calling him tomorrow to check on the status.
I stood looking at all of the cereals, shaking my head saying, “This is not good. This is not good, Gloria.” I closed my eyes, reached for a box, and prayed that the Vanilla Almond Clusters would do the trick.
In Union Square, I sat with a friend having an iced coffee when a 100-footer (Thank you for teaching me that two weeks ago.) approached my friend and me. She was a salt and pepper dyke. She was selling Obama pins. My friend and I exchanged the “Are you kidding me?" glance.
“Do you ladies want an Obama pin?”
She pulled out her stash of paraphernalia. They had little cartoon cat and dog faces on them that said Obama 2008. I got up to put my empty coffee cup into the trash. I came back to my friend sitting there with two pins — one cat and one dog.
I looked at her sideways.
In her Jamaican accent, “We have to convert. It’s time. I got us pins.”
“It’s too soon,” I said. “I can’t do it.”
“Cat or dog?” she pushed.
“Bird!”
"No bird. Cat or dog?"
After some considerable thought, I chose the cat pin. We looked at each other, sighed, nodded and put on our animal Obama pins. It’s still not exactly real to me. Some mornings I forget my pin. Sometimes I move it from my right front pocket to my left front pocket. Sometimes I even get poked by the pin, and I get really pissy when that happens.
Photo. www.catsforobama.com
Change is hard for me, but that day I did it. I didn’t want to go without breakfast, and I certainly didn’t want to have bacon and eggs every morning. So I went with Vanilla Almond Clusters. No, it’s not Organic Raisin Bran Clusters. But I had to do it. I went with Vanilla Almond Clusters because… they both have clusters… and clusters are tasty, and I like them, and Vanilla Almond Clusters also have almonds… and almonds are good for me. And I don’t want John McCain as my next president... so I went with Obama.
And no, there is not enough fiber in my cereal, but it’s good enough for now. It’s sweet, it has clusters and it is filling the void.
So, I went with Obama... because he has enough clusters, and if we don’t get behind him, I’ll be having something similar to bacon and eggs every morning for the next four years. And that just wouldn’t be good for me, would it?
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150 Comments
bacon and eggs over consistently
Obama makes me sick. Period.
I'd vote for the anti-Christ before I'd vote for him.
i am not sure...
Gloria Bigelow
I am not sure why he makes you sick.
Mnnie Z wants to make sure we use accurate sources
Let's hear what McBush has to say for himself:
http://bravenewfilms.org/blog/39179-mccain-s-youtube-problem-just-became...
Your friend,
Rusty
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“People deserve the government they get, and they deserve to get it good and hard.” ~ H.L. Mencken
Obama wants women to CHANGE
now
That is funny.
Why won't Obama march in the Chicago (or any) gay pride parade?
Sebastian Gray offers these reasons against and a host of reasons for doing so:
"Obama might just hate parades (so crowded!), or perhaps he's afraid of rainbows (too damn colorful!), or maybe he's too busy hanging out at the latest Versace fashion show (with Donatella, and her all-muppet band!). There are dozens, if not several, or possibly zero, good and actual reasons for Barack Obama to refuse to march in a Gay Pride Parade (maybe Michelle won't let him, 'cause that's the day they play Scrabble or read poems to each other, or something)."
MINNIEZLATE and LONGBEACH
Have the right NOT to support Obama (just like me)on this site just as all the Obama supporters do.So stop with the FUCKING get over it shit,you see this is what I so dislike about the Obama supporters if you don't think like they do our support Obama(The 2nd Coming )your in the wrong ,well then I will NEVER be right because I will not support Obama there 2nd Coming.
: D
"well then I will NEVER be right "
Honesty really is the best policy.
Your friend,
Rusty
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“People deserve the government they get, and they deserve to get it good and hard.” ~ H.L. Mencken
preachy
Canceled
Deedee, does this mean I should cancel that Obama kitty bowl I ordered for you? (kidding)
PSST: I have voted all kinds of independent in the past. I've decided to support Obama because I mostly agree with his policy positions and I'm sick of eight years of the Repugnatans. Plus, he's cute (kidding again).
Thanks, deedee!
Exterminate! Exterminate! Exterminate!
"You always know when you hit a nerve, the Obamabots come out in force. It reminds me of the Daleks in Doctor Who (Ok, I’m a Sci-Fi nut). If anyone has ever seen Dr. Who, the Daleks are robots with one goal in mind, to exterminate those who oppose their master. They yell “Exterminate!” in their robot voices whenever they see an enemy, and then they try to blast them with their ray guns. They’re lousy shots for robots, though…they usually miss, just like the Obamabots."
- VIA, a post at The Confluence
With you Gloria
only voting for Obama because of no other choice.:( I wanted Hillary.
__________________________________________________
It's not telling you how I feel that scares me it's what you'll say back.
You can't give up on breakfast
and it does matter that you vote and who you vote for and sometimes, protest votes do more harm than good. Maybe somebody mentioned him, maybe not. I am happy to repeat:
Ralph Nader.
I am now a Hillary Supporter for Obama -- and let's not forget what Nancy Pelosi said, Hillary might very well run again for President -- and as far as I can tell, she (Hillary) is doing everything right, so far, to lead to success in her next push.
Mis-Leader Obama
Obama's new ad "Country I Love" is aimed at guess who? (hint: listen to the music, look at the people surrounding him, note the color of the background...)
In it Obama claims to have done some mighty wonderful things!
Of course no word about Rezko, Wright, Farrakhan, Pfleger... but he "passed laws" & "cut taxes", all with "a deep and abiding faith in the country I love".
Factcheck.org is not completely happy with this ad.
Obama Polishes His Resume
Among other things their critique includes:
The only national law in Obama's ad is the one that "extended health care for wounded troops," and it's dubious whether he can claim full responsibility for that one. H.R. 4986, which became public law 110-181 in 2008, includes provisions from several Obama-sponsored bills. His ideas made it into law, but Obama was not a sponsor or cosponsor of H.R. 4986 itself.
Finally, it has always been our position that it's misleading when a member of a legislative body says that he or she "passed a law," "cut taxes" or makes any similar claim to single-handed lawmaking. It takes more than one legislator to get these things done. In addition to the sponsors and the cosponsors, sometimes dozens of them, the bill needs the support of a majority in both houses. Usually, a governor or president needs to then sign a bill into law, unless the legislature comes up with a veto-proof majority.
So for Obama to say that he "passed a law" casts him as a legislative Lone Ranger, hogging credit that properly belongs to other parties as well."
That really hurts.....
" Country I Love ". This saddens me and ,quite honestly, brought me to tears. Oh, I wasn't touched by his compassion..... I was very hurt by his choice to pander to white voters. It is uncomfortably self-evident.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ylVTBiGh00c
Let me preface this by stating that I am bi- racial... and have dealt with racism all of my life. I find his pandering, now that he is the presumed nominee, as a very obvious attempt to capitalize on his "White Middle American" roots. Where were those roots for the last year or so? Did I miss something.
He has continued to call himself a black man. I ,personally, don't care what he "identifies" as. The fact is... he is 1/2 White American and 1/2 Kenyan. All of the time, not just when it's a political advantage.
I could say I am white, because I look white. Does that make me white...no. My brother could call himself black because he looks ethnic,does that make him black,no. My Mother could call herself Italian because all her life she "passed", does that make her Italian, no.
Now , he expects white voters to believe he's all about his "Middle American" roots? And his grandparents?? This hurts. Deeply and painfully. I'm not sure this issue is one that many can relate to. It is a deeply, emotional subject that most , if not all, bi-racial Americans deal with everyday and every moment of their lives.Not fitting in "the box", but living a full life..... in spite of it.
Most people want to, and need to, trust and believe in what our "charismatic" leaders tell us. Maybe it's just human nature. I want to believe. My sister told me about this video clip, and she was crying when she told me. She has always counted on her big sister to help her understand racism, because it's effected her deeply. I could say nothing...... because I don't understand using our "heritage" as an excuse for failure or for gain......I would have had more respect for him had his political ads reflected his authentic self..... from day one.
Peace.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ylVTBiGh00c
thnx for your very personal perspective
Minnie Z
You have clearly convinced yourself that your life and that of all Americans will be better served by 4 more years of the Bush administration, so knock yourself out and vote for McBush in November.
I supported Hillary in the primary. Like Hillary, I believe the way to achieve her goals and mine is in supporting Obama now.
Your friend,
Rusty
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“People deserve the government they get, and they deserve to get it good and hard.” ~ H.L. Mencken
you still don't get it
Not all of us have given up on Hillary winning the nomination. It's way too early for that. Acquiesing won't get her in office. Fighting might.
Obama is only the presumptive nominee – the DNC had no right turning the party over to him/A-rod or moving it to Chicago. Just as they have no right to remove Hillary's name from the ballot in August.
No one needs to make any final voting decisions now. The election is several months off.
The Obama vetting process continues because it was never done properly in the first place. I personally do not want another bumbler in the Oval Office; I don't want to be cringing for 4 years at the ignorant gaffes my president makes, I don't want to hear the excuses for his FLIP-FLOPPING and BROKEN PROMISES, all of which he'll call "COMPROMISE". I could go on and on...
I want a REAL DEMOCRACY. I REFUSE to accept a candidate that has been selected FOR ME and will NOT REWARD a system that does just that. I refuse to accept a MALE CANDIDATE who profitted from the endless misogyny directed at Hillary and all women and SAT BACK AND SAID/DID NOTHING.
You are incorrect; I do get it
You are hoping against hope that there is something so horrific in Obama's background that the party will have no choice but to choose Hillary. That's pretty sad and it says more about you than it does Hillary or Obama.
Your friend,
Rusty
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“People deserve the government they get, and they deserve to get it good and hard.” ~ H.L. Mencken
No, you don't get it
because if you did, you wouldn't be so bent on trying to get those who don't share your opinions to submit.
I'm posting information on OC and allowing women to decide for themselves. You are doing something quite different.
Posting the rants of a serial fraud artist is not informative
Sharing clips from a McBush supporter pretending to be a Democrat turning against the party is not very useful to someone trying to make up their mind, either. People need the full story including information about the sources behind the claims.
This is the same thing I did during the primaries and people posted what I believed to be weak or incorrect arguments against Hillary.
Your friend,
Rusty
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“People deserve the government they get, and they deserve to get it good and hard.” ~ H.L. Mencken
But that is just it Rusty.
But that is just it Rusty. People get their sources from many different sources. You just happen to not believe anything that isn't backed by any of your sources. Any you have that right to hold your sources so high - but it just means that you like to keep this one 'tunnel vision'...kind of like the rest of us.
And our meeting in the middle is discussion....what we have.
rovermom :)
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You're a good soul
and I'll live in your world any day, Rovermom!
Rovermom, I have no doubt
That in your world view Larry Sinclair is equal to any other source even though he has a history of lying, fraud, & drug abuse.
In the real world, all sources are not equal. That's why the credibility of witnesses is so important in a courtroom.
The fact that I believe sources of information should be evaluated does not mean I have tunnel vision. It means I have standards.
Your friend,
Rusty
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“People deserve the government they get, and they deserve to get it good and hard.” ~ H.L. Mencken
Court room credibility. Ok
Court room credibility. Ok here is my view...or shall I say, my very own experience.
The custody battle that I had in Indiana over my son. His father pretty much decided to walk into his life - again by force - not his own will, when my son was 8. We went to court over custody - after I did a Bette - because he literally stole my son while I was being a single working parent. his parents were the babysitters. I worked from 3pm till 1am in a foundry. My son went to school during the day.
trying to be the good parent, I agreed - prior to my son's father moving to Indiana - to him staying there over night, and not waking him up at 1:30am to bring him 8 blocks to my house - just for me to wake him up at 6 am for school. I had him on the weekends - and trying to get my foot in the door and move to another shift.
My son's father moved in - after being kicked out and sued for divorce and sole custody with a PFA on his ass for beating the shit out of his wife - till she passed out cold. but I didn't know all this at the time - just I had this feeling of something is not right.
about a year later - my son's father uprooted with a new GF and took my son with him. 45 minutes away he moved. He ignored my lawyer - and after all these stories of playing with the bon fire and burning garbage and fields - in sub-freezing temps - and expecting my son to help stump out the fire in Indiana-windy-February with the hose froze over - and the fire up past his waist. My gut was to figure out a way to get him back fast.
Luckily he called me up and asked me to take him for a week due to him and his parents were going back to Philly for a wedding - kids weren't allowed.
I talked with my family and friends. My best bet was to make plans and come home to PA during the week. They thought he wouldn't shit about it. He never wanted Zach to begin with - and never took care of anything for him - not physically or financially...his parents did it for him - and when he knocked up another girl - they stopped the financial part - and support was in arrears over 6 thousand. Not like I was getting much - it was only $156 a month. Daycare would cost me over $400 a month.
And it was me who told his parents they had a grandson - not him. I sought out his parents and made connections for the betterment of my son - he and they had that right to know each other. It was his parents and me who built a family between us. His father was just a picture on the wall.
my mom who lives in California was around him more - and knew him more then his own father.
Yet - in our closed courtroom ...after her testimony and my witness - her credibility was thrown out - because she had no way to know and it was all second hand witness - according to the judge. A nurse - in fact a hospice nurse's creditability was thrown out...
And an abusive husband who is not allowed to see his own child (PFA) - who was a deadbeat - according to Indiana law (it's $5000) - who's multiple 3 inch thick deatbeat file folder...a person who never showed up in PA whenever summoned for non-payment - but always sent a lawyer...and it is written, or was - the paper ended up missing before I could come back to have it copied - of him quitting Dupont in Tenn. once the PA Domestics got through to Dupont and the day after he was told.
He hated my son with a passion - for ruining his life.
Did I mention that my son's grandfather was (he passed away a few years ago) was a high profile international business man not only here in PA - but also very 'up there' in the small Indiana area.
My court case was...ummm arranged to look like it was real. Creditability was not an issue and meant NOTHING. Facts were swayed for POV...
money greed...power...control credibility..
I was blamed for every little thing...
from my sexuality all the way to my son being bittin' in his mouth by a very pregnant (and nesting) English Bulldog, while he was walking through the door to his friend's house - it was my fault that his lip was shredded and hanging from one corner and he had to have a plastic surgeon to put over 150 stitches in to put it back together...
I'm not the best parent in the world - I wouldn't even subscribe to that kind of mentality. I was just trying to be the best me, and raise him with what I have.
Do you know what kind of motivation it took for his father to just decide...he wants to now be a part of his life?
Well for starters - if I have my son - his father would have to pay support for 2 kids in 2 different states - equaling up to $900 a month (he was finally stationary to do a reassessment and not basing it off the standard military of $156)...
And daddy had been sick and was fighting liver cancer (I didn't know that at the time, it as the Cword) - he had been written out of the will back in 1998 - due to his ignoring his own son...the rule was - my son was getting the inheritance (I found out that shit 3 years ago) unless he gets custody.
Basically - my son's father piggybacked off of his own parent's credibility - which was money and power.
I've earned my gray hair and this point of view...
rovermom :)
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I have no clue who Larry
I have no clue who Larry Sinclair is. The general population wouldn't even know who he is.
Credibility is favored - I agree....in the real world - even those with great creditability are still human - and point of view and who you know is extremely critical in the process of that credibility.
money greed power...all control credibility - especially when it is at stake.
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Rovemom, if you "have no clue who Larry Sinclair is"
Then maybe you shouldn't have posted a comment in support of his allegations.
Your friend,
Rusty
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“People deserve the government they get, and they deserve to get it good and hard.” ~ H.L. Mencken
I posted a comment in
I posted a comment in support of him? No. I posted a comment in support of our right to our own sources.
In your world, only truthful facts should be posted - which I concur - but truthful facts are on all sides...point of views...and it is here we place them on the table....and then decipher them together. What you're thinking of should be, is part of dictatorship...
2 times now, you've told me that I should not comment. So, you do believe in censorship, don't you...
rovermom :)
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"but truthful facts are on all sides...point of views..."
That is not correct. There is a difference between fact and opinion. There is no such thing as an "untruthful fact." A fact is independently verifiable. We use facts to support a point of view.
What I am thinking of is NOT a dictatorship. It's a society where people take responsibility for posting accurate information. That's not too much to ask, is it?
Your friend,
Rusty
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“People deserve the government they get, and they deserve to get it good and hard.” ~ H.L. Mencken
In my opinion
You are parsing Rovermom's words instead of trying to understand what she is saying. And you certainly have the characteristics of a dictator!
Why tell anyone here that they shouldn't comment? Why the desire to control all that come onto these blogs when you can start one of your own? Start your own blog and you can delete with gleeful delight, create your own perfect blogger society and wear the crown too! (or the boots, depending...)
Pointing out weak arguments or encouraging posters
to understand what they are posting about does not make me a dictator.
I am not "parsing" Rovemom's words. I am quoting her directly and in context and responding to her words.
Telling me to start my own blog? Hmmm? Are you suggesting I leave the site? How is this not censorship on your part?
Your friend,
Rusty
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“People deserve the government they get, and they deserve to get it good and hard.” ~ H.L. Mencken
I once knew a woman...
who had a really bad inferiority complex. It was very difficult to deal with her because when you said one thing, she'd hear something else. This dialogue is an example of how that was expressed:
Me: Hey your outfit looks really cool...
Her: What – and my hair looks terrible?!!
I went to my neice's
I went to my neice's softball game the other week - took my son and my camera bag. Got some pretty cool pics - but mostly I just love to play and test settings and just well...learn in different mediums. I like landscape and macro.
Anywho - I was just clicking away and turned to grab some of the side parents - and she held up her hand as I was trying to really get into focus - I had my 400 zoom on. She freaked out and was all like "no no no" - she was doing a 'me'. But I asked why, and she was like, "not a good time"...and I was like, "but you look like you always do".
She took that as a bad thing...and said something hurtful - which I tried to ignore. I'm just going to chalk it up as her being under a lot of stress...and sometimes the elevator doesn't go up all the way.
I can never seem to take a candid shot...a real shot - without fakeass emotions smothered on top...
In my eyes, she's always beautiful - I accept her...except when I see fakeness - it blurs our her true beauty. And I hate capturing fake. I want to capture some kind of truth...other then fake.
rovermom :)
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what a shame and loss for her...
...that she didn't allow herself to be photographed through your eyes.
And - as you noticed - proof of how people lash out when they don't love/accept themselves. If she could have only seen that picture and the real you, Rovermom...
facts can be
facts can be construed...and/or left out...opinions sway facts...
But the question still remains...who is to judge people for their responsibility? - without being a dictator...
rovermom :)
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In a representative democracy
we are responsible for judging each other. And opinions don't "sway" facts but they might cause someone to lie.
A while back there was a post that misrepresented Hillary's voting record. How she voted is an example of a fact - independently verifiable bit of data. It looked "off" to me so I went to the Congressional website and looked up her votes. And then I posted the facts. That's how it works.
Your friend,
Rusty
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“People deserve the government they get, and they deserve to get it good and hard.” ~ H.L. Mencken
I'm sometimes amazed at how
I'm sometimes amazed at how well things work in society overall with all of the misinformation out there, like the woman in NY who told me "Obama is a terrorist", and now people are questioning his patriotism. I don't believe everything he says either, but I can think of a lot more important things to concern ourselves with than whether or not Barack Obama is patriotic. I mean really, what's your definition of patriotic? Do you have to have 12 flags on your car? Or is it really okay to look carefully at what needs fixed here as well as what is good?
Okay I'm off the soap box now. :)
To some patriotism is to
To some patriotism is to follow whatever this government tells us...
And to others, patriotism is questioning what they tell us...
I kind of lean towards the latter...
Mainstream sources...governmental sources...are not always accurate. And if we go by that ol adages of not believing everything we hear or read and only half of what we see...then we could understand that sources...are just sources - just like people are just people. We bring what we bring to the table....and this
this meeting of the minds...discussion and feedback is where it is judged and learning takes place - and if people can't respect that concept, then...whatever...it is what it is.
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Agreed
“It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried.”
~ Winston Churchill
Your friend,
Rusty
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“People deserve the government they get, and they deserve to get it good and hard.” ~ H.L. Mencken
facts can be
facts can be construed...and/or left out...opinions sway facts...
But the question still remains...who is to judge people for their responsibility?
rovermom :)
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There are sources that are
There are sources that are more reliable than others. When evaluating web sites I check for authority, if the info came from an academic or government organization, currency, etc. That's about all we can do.
sources? we don't need no stinking sources
hey, like the lady in the antique store - who needs sources.
just go with your gut.
Haha..yeah that's right.
Haha..yeah that's right.
You want the Source?
You can't HANDLE the source!
in my best jack nicholson impersonation..
ok, enough with the shenanigans.... ;)
I got your source
right here, baby~ source this! ;)
hahaha!
My, those are some awfully
My, those are some awfully nice abs Carlin. :)
"That's not too much to ask,
"That's not too much to ask, is it?"
I don't know, it seems magazines, newspapers and networks like CNN post innacurate stuff at times. I live by the adge, "Believe nothing of what you hear (or read) and only half what you see."
I agree; we need to keep the media honest
Three sites that I find helpful are:
factcheck.org
mediamatters.org
snopes.com
Also, print media usually fact check political ads and post their findings.
Your friend,
Rusty
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“People deserve the government they get, and they deserve to get it good and hard.” ~ H.L. Mencken
:) I use those too.
:) I use those too.