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People in Glass Closets…

So, did everyone see that Out Magazine cover, with Jodie Foster and Anderson Cooper? The topic at hand: The Glass Closet. Here's the cover, and try, if you can, to ignore the incredibly provocative headline at lower left: "Bananarama: Large Men in Small Shorts." Focus, people! Focus!


Writer Michael Musto, he of the rapier -- er, I'd say wit, but that's a cliché and it would be embarrassing to describe a really good writer using a cliché. So, Mr. Cleverpants Great Writer Man, Michael Musto, has written an insightful article about how stars like Jodie Foster and Anderson Cooper have constructed the perfect down-the-middle existence: Everyone knows they're gay, but they don't ever reveal it publicly. So they get the benefit of leading semi-open gay lives, but without the drawbacks of losing jobs or ratings for being out.

Some people feel like this is bad behavior on their part. Why not come out? Isn't it a betrayal of "our community" to stay closeted? On the other hand, why not have it both ways? It's like that old saying, "They want to have their cake and eat it too." I never actually understood that quote, because what the hell would you do with cake, other than eat it?

Anyway, my two favorite quotes from the articles are these:

"Meanwhile, the more circumspect David Hyde Pierce is quoted on the Internet Movie Database as saying, 'My life is an open book, but don’t expect me to read it to you.'" Excellent! Charm them with a literate metaphor, and no one will care if you're gay or not. They'll just think you're really smart!


And "As [Michelangelo] Signorile disdainfully puts it, 'Anderson Cooper has finessed it where straight women who have a crush on him think he’s straight and gay men actually think he’s out. [The glass closeters] are able to play different niche audiences to whatever sexual orientation those people want, and they believe it!'"

If you think about it, this theory could be profitably apply to so many things in life -- not just sexual orientation, but, for example, political affiliation, sports, religious beliefs, whatever. I yam what you want me to be, baby. Call it the tabula rasa effect. Am I gay? Am I straight? Am I conservative or liberal? Do I prefer a Bud or an excellent single-malt? Do I love NASCAR, or golf? Who am I, really?


Whoa! How'd that get in there?!

75 Comments

I Wish I Am Brave like them!

Wow! I wish i'm courageous like rest of you...Like the L word show...but i'm not at all...i'm just aah scared, afraid, feeling so confused and don't know what to think. or what my family and friends will say.
i don't have that self-confidence in me. i'm chicken!!!

i've been hiding in my closet eversince when i was in my highschool years until now in the present.how old i am now, i'm in my 30s. Still single, shy type, never had relationship no girlfriends...because i'm scared and running away from it.

My emotions/feelings are strong...i like women a lot...i can't stop thinking about them. my first crush when i was in my freshman in highschool. gosh i really don't know how to open up to anyone...not even to my family...or close friends. i keep lying to them that i'm attracted to men.

i better just stay in my closet or just lock myself in the box...i feel safe that way i think!? i'll just imagine what's like to come out from the closet...

IQCFEM

I know how you feel, because I felt that way for a long time. Coming out is not an easy process.
I will tell you one thing, though. I always considered myself attractive and likeable, and yet I was very insecure, and also shy. When I came out, I became a much more confident person. I'm not sure if it was the fact that I was taking a stand for myself and my identity, or just that I felt so much more attractive and accepted in the lesbian community.
Whatever your choice, I wish you the best life has to offer.

Outing Jodie is good in a way

I see both the pros and the cons of outing gay celebrities. While I respect their privacy and their right to not comment - I think their celebrity status puts them in a position to "take a stand" on being accepted as a gay person.

A lot of gay celebrities use their celebrity status to take a high profile stand on other issues (be it political in natre, an environmental or animal cause, or charity fund raise). As a result, people rally around the cause (example: Bono bringing attention to the AIDS problem in Africa).

Most people love Jodie Foster and respect her work. By "outing" her - those same people (many of who are homophobic and see all Gay people as "Jack" off of Will & Grace) will open their eyes to the gay community - and hopefully see that gay people come in all shapes and sizes and are individuals that can be judged on their own merits.

They will have to now somehow merry their generalized homophobic view (of the anonymous gay) with their life long admiration of a very talented and well respected actress, Jodie Foster. Hopefully, this will open their judgemental closed mind and they will realize their attitude needs an adjustment.

At the very least, they will realize we (gay people) are everywhere (your doctor, your politician, your favourite actress, your newscaster, you police officer, your neighbour, your child) and they are going to have start accepting us or they are going to lead a very unhappy judgemental life.

I will always Love Jodie Foster - Gay, Straight or Otherwise

Jodie is one classy act and I respect her privacy - she's done some absolutely fantastic work and has outlasted many that came before her. She's got a silent and stunning beauty that will withstand the test of time. So if she's playing on our team - SUPER - and if not, she's still a woman to love and respect. TC

It's sad, but...

...there are a lot of staff people around celebrities that encourage them to stay in the closet. They preach a fear consciousness about how "middle America" will stop buying that celebrity's product, how the celebrity will lose their job and end up on the street unable to make their house payments -- I'm not kidding. This is the BS that gets thrown out to people in entertainment. Basically, the people who make their money off the celebrity (Manager -- 20%, business manager, 15%, publicist $5000 a month retainer, etc) are terrified that they will lose a meal ticket if the celebrity that is outing themself begins to lose opportunities. So they would rather keeps those celebs scared. And in the closet. And their bank account full.

Its stupid, but it works. Very sad that so many actors, actresses, and musicians fall prey to that limitation consciousness, and that type of thinking, especially in this era. What these closeted celebrites don't understand is that the public's fascination is NOT with them being gay, but with their obessesive need to HIDE who they are. They become a puzzle, a challenge -- not a person.

Again, very demoralizing, but it's something these public figures bring on themselves. Again, sometimes people are just private, but being private and being "in the closet" are two different intentions in this industry altogther. The general public can smell that superimposed secrecy a mile away, and they pursue it.

Good Post

I just thought that was interesting story and I cant believe people must waste their time and money publishing sh*t like this. I mean get over it, people are people and we all love who we love, and like another poster said "it's not a choice to be gay, it's a choice to come out". But on the other hand, I think we should all be proud of who we are and come on out. Just my 2 cents.

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Glass Closet

It is true that most of us in the gay community have honed in on our gaydar skills over the years so that we can identify with others without it being said. I don't understand why people think that celebrities have to come out in order to be respected. Coming out is a very private thing, each of us will do it in our own way, in our own time or perhaps, never. It is not a choice to be gay, it is a choice to come out.

Its the most intelligent

Its the most intelligent post. Its a choice to tell or not. Not everyone is strong enought to deal with family or friends opinions or to rejection.
Let me tell you that my closet is in stainless steel.

Glass Closets.........

Did they really have to write an article about who is gay and in the closet? Oh my.........this kind of information is completely useless to me. Why should anyone care if someone chooses to live their lives in the 'so-called' closet. Can you really be in the closet if everyone knows your gay? Or does the problem lie in the fact that people are not advertising their sexuality to be accepted by others? Or could it be that they are so comfortable in their skin, they don't need to let everyone know? Whatever the reasons may be for them, not coming out is their business and not a magazine's job to inform the entire world over. This is gossip at its best! LOLOLOLOLOL..

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Jeans aside...

Hello everyone!

I would first like say how great I think it is that so many of you are giving well thought out opinions about such an important and controvesial issue. I'd also like to say I think it's awesome that people seem so gracious when responding to views that oppose their own. So many other sites have died because people couldn't keep their cool.

That being said, it's a tough issue, this discussion seems to be trying to explore the issue of the good of the many over the good of the few. Jodie Foster and her family have every advantage any of us could hope for, and some we wouldn't even know about in order to hope for them, good for them. Awesome. I don't wish any of them harm, the truth of the matter is that we private citizens have almost no scope of reference for the decision making that GLBT celebs have to go through the day they realize that they are finally famous. Some of you have spoken of the family members who's lives will be disturbed, the children and friends, but it's not just them. It's every person who could ever be connected in anyway to that celeb. The first guy she kissed, first prom date, people who the famous person hasn't thought of in decades could become the target of nasty or painful allegations based on a photo found at some garage sale. It's a lot to think about, lucky for me I'm not famous.

That being said a few summers back my wife (it's complicated) was gay bashed in a 711 parking lot. The next summer we both went to speak before the Texas Legislative Committe meeting on House Joint Resolution 6, where we each --along with 580+ other citizens-- gave impassioned and ignored speeches about why we all need equal rights.

She isn't famous yet, but the threat of physical harm became a very real one on a very hot summer afternoon. Those of you who argued for the rights of the rich and famous have a point. The dangers exist, but they are much more likely to affect you or me than Jodi F. or A. Cooper. Perhaps when we are speaking up for the private rights of public figures, we should spend an equal amout of time speaking up for the women getting the crap kicked out of them. Perhaps we can let Jodi's security staff worry about how to keep her safe. Maybe our concern really should be that (now famous) kid from Kansas. Or the uninformed masses from everywhere. Or our congressmen and other legislators.My lady found herself in a really sticky situation and used that the try to empower others. It's an option. This is what many commonly refer to as courage. It's not for everyone, otherwise it wouldn't have a name.

Lots of people seemed really concerned about these two very talented and blessed people losing thier jobs (Jodi has a job?) but I still find myself concerned about the average joe's of states like mine where one may be on-the-spot fired if one's boss finds out with whom one is sleeping.

Or those GLBT people who for whatever reason find themselves in the armed forces, they live each day knowing to be found out could be the beginning of the end. When I was in the military, a soldier who fancied himself in love with me called my commander to tell him that I was gay and living with a woman. Just on a mean spirited whim, he hoped to ruin my career and publically embarrass me. (one cannot technically be outed in the military, it must be "confessed" or there must be incontrivertible evidence). I didn't get in much trouble because luckily I chose the medical field (lots o gays). Though my commander, my 1SG, and myself had to have a little conference over why my car looked like it could lead the pride parade, but that's neither here nor there. Had it been any other unit, it very well may have been an entirlely different story.

People don't have to be public figures to have thier jobs snatched out from under them over being gay. All of this outrage on behalf of beloved famous figures is awesome, use your voice, once we all get the hang of it, we can go out and fight for people who don't have off-shore bank accounts and that very cushy buffer of millions of dollars to soften the blow of irrational hatred. Let's parlay this justified outrage on behalf of these few, into a general non-accepatance of the crappy sitaution we are all being forced to swallow.

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gay bashing

I find it shameful that our society still allows people to be gay bashed. When I was in my late teens and 20's, my friends and I were gay bashed frequently. That was in the late 1970's and 1980's. We had to travel in groups for protection, but sometimes even that did not help. Sometimes it seems as though we have not progressed at all.

Gay bashing in Paris...

A few years ago, I was on the subway going back home from work.
Three girls came in and, obviously, two of them were a couple. They were very discreet but at the same time, with any "gaydar", you could tell... At that time, I was in the process of realizing I was actually gay myself... So the girls were joking, smiling to eachother, and suddenly a guy who was sitting by his girlfriend, who was just a few minutes earlier making out with her, got up and started yelling at the girls... It was very sudden so everyone was upset and kind of "frozen"... Then he slapped one of them... I was so shocked!... The girls went out of the subway as soon as the next station - they were also very shocked by the whole event... I remember shaking all the way back to my place... It was in 2000, right in the center of the biggest French city, and a couple of years later, walking with my own girlfriend (not even holding hands with her...), I was going to be insulted on several occasions... So I guess our "modern" societies still have progress to make...

news to me

holy shit, jodie foster's gay, that's news to me, weird i've always had a bit of a crush on her, she was hilarious in the dangerous lives of altar boys as a peg leg nun bitch.

yeah jodi foster is gay

just my 2 cents...

Why can't private lives just be "private" anymore?

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Re: Private lives...

Why can't private lives just be "private" anymore?

Because people are too wrapped up in other people's lives, they'd rather nitpick the shit out of others
rather than focus on themselves and their own lives.

Private, what's that!!!??......

I think because, ppls feel they have a RIGHT to ask this certain questions. Especially when ppls like Kate Moennig `stick to their guns', do not go with the rest of the pack, & keep individual.

Right to vs Polite to

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So I guess since people have a "right" to ask(by the way who gave this right) then that supercedes wether it is actually POLITE to ask.Oh but then good manners these days and respecting other people is "out of style",right?

The old SELF ENTITLEMENT attitude of this generation kicks in again:(

"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter".~Martin Luther King jr.

Unless we're suddenly living in a dictatorship

People do, indeed, have the RIGHT to ask such questions. And on the flipside of the coin, people also have the RIGHT to refuse to answer such questions.
But that won't stop the questioning !

No, I'm not out to dictate!!!

No, I'm not out to dictate. I'm thinking of Kate, yes, ppls do have the right to ask, & Kate has the right to decline, sure, I'll go along with that. Probably, Kate is professional enough to answer in a neat way, I just hope she doesn't mind being asked as many times as she has been.
Maybe Kate is going to have to `come out' because fans can't respect her privacy enough. Maybe 'cos Leisha is `out', & everyone knows that, they feel that Kate will suddenly do the same. Especially with doing this podcast with Leisha, she will feel more comfortable to say, & make ppls happy!!??

Personally, I don't think KM

Personally, I don't think KM will ever confirm/deny whether she's straight or gay. But I'm willing to place a personal bet that someone else will do it for her. At the moment, KM's 'star' is still in the ascent but if/when she lands more lucrative roles and broadens her profile in the industry, it won't take much for a spurned ex (male or female) to crawl out of the woodwork and sell their story. Happens all the time. And that's when the PR people will really earn their fees.

And i hope kate never says a

Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at PhotobucketAnd i hope kate never says a word,because we all know that won't be the end of the blood sucking.There will be more and more request for personal information such as who are the women she slept with and what was it like and on and on.It's enough to drive anybody to drink and drugs.

I've seen it first hand on this site.The more you give the more they want and want.Excuse me demand and demand is a better word.Other folks business is a thirst that can never be quenched so it's best not to try.

"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter".~Martin Luther King jr.

because peeps talk to much thats why

Usually your "private life"

Usually your "private life" is your private life if you're an ordinary Joe. But the cult of celebrity has changed how the general public treat individuals who have higher profiles and actively court publicity for their next money-making ... er, I mean artistic, endeavour.
The days of seeing a celeb whisk by in a sleak black limo, waving half-heartedly at gawking fans, and feeling safe in the knowledge that they need never actually speak with their devotees have long gone. Society's changing expectations and the need to feel "closer" to our heros/heroines have been stoked by the media so that now, no question - no matter how intrusive or rude - is out of bounds. And if a celeb refuses to open up and play ball, tough. Speculation and supposition is the name of the game. It sells copy and fills air time.
And they call this 'progress' ... < sigh! > ...

Celebrities dont care about us out-siders

They stay with there own and thats cool with me...I actually like it. They have some money, i have more,and i am really happy
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Peace all

@ Velvetrose: Is that

@ Velvetrose: Is that statement just a sweeping generalisation ? Are you including the cast of TLW as well ?

I think it is a very wise choice

There will always be celebrities that just do not want their orientation discussed. As people that make their living from being in the public eye, this is actually a good route to take. this way they keep their fan base on both sides. I mean, we've all wondered about Ricky Martin, and these days I hear a lot of questions about Kate Moennig's orientation.
When it all comes down to it, who cares? They are great performers, I probably will never meet or date any of them. (Actually, I've been in the same room with both Ricky and Kate, but that's beside the point, and I doubt I made an impression). If they want to keep their private lives, well, private; so be it.
I, myself, chose to keep my orientation private in my workplace. Everyone knew, and I was aware of this, but I never actually admitted it. Until the day my girlfriend dumped me and I had to explain why I was blubbering at work with my head up my ass, but that's a different story.

Sorry 'bout what happened to you!!

Hey, sorry to hear why you suddenly had to `come out'. I totally `HERE, HERE' your post tho'!! Good one!!

Thank you, sweetchick16.

Thank you, sweetchick16.

You are very welcome!!! 25MARTMYOWNGOOD

You are so welcome,!!, honey, hope you have moved on & are happy!!

Michel Foucault and my own ramblings / thoughts

A lot of the comments i'm reading remind me of Michel Foucault's book The History of Sexuality, which pioneered 'queer theory'.

Foucault argued that as a society we have a fixation with finding out the "truth", a truth that is to be confessed. It is as if sexuality did not exist unless it is confessed. Foucault writes:

"We have since become an extraordinarily confessing society. Confession has spread its effects far and wide: in the judicial system, in medicine, in pedagogy, in familial relations, in amorous relationships, in everyday life and in the most solemn rituals; crimes are confessed, sins are confessed, thoughts and desires are confessed, one's past and one's dreams are confessed, one's childhood is confessed; one's diseases and problems are confessed;..."

And here's my point, in a sense, a "coming out" is like a confession which denotes that whatever is confessed is 'negative' in the sense that one does not confess what is seen as common or the norm. A straight kid ain't going to sit the folks down and say "I like the opposite sex" like it's this giant truth which only once confessed can be accepted.

Hopefully, in the future, it will be more a case of "ok, you like girls, i can see that because you have a girlfriend" (in the case of J Foster perhaps)
rather than it being:

"Jodie F tells world she's a lesbian"...

Why should she, it's a natural, normal way of life...what is there to confess?

Of course the thing i'm talking about here with regards to JF is her making a public statement, I still think she should be seen out with her g/f and doing all the normal things couples do, not hiding any part of her life. This may stop it from being so sensationalist...but actually what we'd end up with are tabloids acting like they have uncovered the "truth", 'JF spotted canoodling with x'..etc

What we really want is for the starting point to change from "you're straight unless you say otherwise" how nice would it be to grow up in a world where nothing is presumed.

It's that old adage of "I wish I wasn't gay" ...no...you wish society didn't have any issue with it.

*applause*

Great post!
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I loved this post

First of all, it is so true that no one ever had to confess that they were heterosexual. Lately I have been thinking about this issue as well. I wonder what things might be like if the majority of people were heterosexual, what my life might be like if I were not the only gay person in the room.
The last line of your post is absolutely, without a doubt, the truth, at least for me. I have said that I wished I was not gay over the years, especially when my family or peers turned me away. I do wish that it was not an issue. Great post!

I've commented on this

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I've commented on this subject before on this board so i have basicly had nothing to add until now.

Ourchart was ceated on the premise of giving lesbians and others a tool to make friends.Now some have taken it to another level and use this board as a dating services,but I guess that was sure to happen too.Why? Because the pool of datible lesbians is small.In some towns none existant therefore we run to the internet in hopes of meeting someone that makes our heart skip a beat.Gives us someone to pour all those romantic dreams into and we can expect the same in return.

I think anyone who has dated in the lesbian community for a minute would agree it's not the easiest of task to do. Searching for compatibility amongst the different morals and values,social interest,longterm goals,and HANGUPS.Then once you think you've found the one working through and tweaking the relationship so that it remains a passionate addition to a lonely life.

With that being the challeneges of regular non-celebs dating life why would a celeb want to "add" the pressure and scrutiny of the paparazzi to all that.Should they not expect to find true love b/c they are a celeb and chose that life as someone said?Well they didn't choose to be gay did they?Or maybe they should fall into that stereotypical homo behavior of bedding any and everything that has a pluse.That Perez guy would love that would't he?More pics and articles for trash tabloids.

Jodi Foster has been with the same woman for a long time.Maybe that is because she hasn't paraded her relationship before the camera to make someone's frontpage story.Maybe keeping her family all to herself is giving her and her kids the kind of lifestyle Jodi didn't have as a child star.

I think we all have a right to love and be loved and in this world gays don't get to experience a lot of it.So whose to blame us if when we do we grab it up,wrap our arms around it while holding it close to our bodies to make sure no one can take it away.It's each individuals choice to decided wether they want to risk what's so hard to come by for a community they didn't choose to be born a part of.

"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter".~Martin Luther King jr.

Brava, that was wonderful. I

Brava, that was wonderful. I must say I agree wholeheartedly with you.

"Know In Your Soul, Like Your Blood Knows The Way, From Your Heart To Your Brain, Know That You're Whole. And You're Shining Like The Brightest Star."

the Outing

I have so many mixed feelings about celebrity outings. I think it would be so valuable to the rest of us if they did come out.....It would show the world that they are still the same people that were so popular before they did. Both Jodi and Anderson are wildly successful and have nothing to lose.....but ultimately it IS their own decision to make. Just because its what WE want does not mean that they must do it....(lots of us want Bette and Tina back together...we may not get that).It is THEIR decision and we must respect that.

My 2 cents

I think coming out is hard for anybody but if you're not famous or semi famous then how can you dictate to these people when they should come out? You aren't famous and you don't have your face splashed across the screen by gossip mags every day. Yes many regular folks go through their own ordeals with families and it's terrible but it's not in front of THE ENTIRE WORLD. Give me the ladder any day of the week to deal with than being famous and dealing with my sexuality for the world to see.

No one has the right to tell someone when it's time to come out, period. And yes if one of those celebs has a crazy person decide to go after them because of them being outted I won't blame the magazine entirely but I will consider them with blood on their hands.

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outing

The problem is there should be no outing. We should always be out and then there would be no big unveiling of our private lives for people to be spectators of. We all need to be who we are and stop worrying about it being some big event that we must someday announce to the world. Thanks

If being out was so in then

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If being out was so in then why are gays still being fired because they're gay.? Why are people not getting hired because they're gay?Why are people still being killed and beaten within a inch of their life because they're gay?Don't Ask,Don't Tell.Discrimination in housing and i could go on and on.

I wonder what world some of you live in that you can think so simmple about being OUT.Maybe it's time to step out of the world of fiction and into the real world were GAY still isn't the best thing to be.

"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter".~Martin Luther King jr.

not betrayal

I can understand both points of the argument, but in my opinion, no matter what, no one should be outted...EVER. It doesn't matter if it's a celebrity or a regular Joe. People will come out when it's time for them. Selfish reasons, polital reasons or what have you. I don't think anyone has the right to run up and put anyone on blast in any way. That's not cool. I can't stand little "Gay Crusaders" who do that kind of thing. It's a personal issue with me, because some chick I knew was totally into outting people. But then, wanted to flip bad when someone outted her at work once. What the hell ever. Don't dish it out, if you can't take it. In the opinion based on this magazine though, I still don't think it was right. Not in a magazine, on radio, or just spreading in around school or work. There are too many other things that can happen to someone being outted. Regardless, gay bashing/hate crimes still take place and we don't need to get into the discrimination issues in both work and play. When an individual is ready to take all the "consequences" that may or may not come with coming out, that person will come out. But I don't think it's up to anyone else to throw them into that reaction.

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Yes, it is a betrayal

I am sort of sick that I am old enough to have such a visceral reaction to this topic. Not that I am making assumptions about the ages of those leaving comments. Perhaps I am just out of touch or old. Or tired. Or all three. Howeverrrrrr....

This is the thing that makes me furious. Of course the humanist part of me believes that each individual has a right to her own privacy. Of course I believe that people's private lives are their own business and of course I believe that sometimes tuning out any outside information is the best method of survival.

At the same time, I wonder how some of you think we got here? Do you actually believe that the world just turned for long enough that we are now the beneficiaries of the pitiful advances in legal rights and social attitudes that exist in our country today? Do you really think that it just magically happened?

What if I told you that there are literally millions of people in their 40's and 50's and even some in their 20's who have been brave enough to make a stand for all of the rest of us? Do you know how many obviously queer drag queens and bulldykes have had the literal shit beaten out of them to advance YOUR rights? Not to mention those of us who have written checks equal to several vacation homes and spent our literal or figurative children's inheritances supplying the cash necessary to fund those fights?

Even after all of that, here's the worse news. Your government still thinks you do not deserve the same rights as your straight next door neighbors. Maybe you have an easier time telling your friends you are gay or maybe it is easier to fall for gay for a day girls but that is social progress, not rights. The acceptance of our culture by the media has been driven by one single thing. We have money to spend and they want it. That's basically it folks. When it comes to legal and legislative advances, we are sadly lacking in triumphs. You can't get legally married (although I personally don't care much about that I know some of you do), you are being denied over 1000 legal and financial provisions that are automatically extended to your straight siblings, you must pay an attorney to draft the documents necessary to insure that you can enter a hospital room to see your partner on her deathbed (God forbid) and a bazillion other rights that YOU DO NOT HAVE AS AN AMERICAN.

So, those who have spent their entire adult lives fighting and scraping and begging for a place at the much heralded table are really pissed when others take that for granted. Celebrities are one issue and your rights are another. Do not be fooled into thinking that just because Ellen hosted the Oscars that you can do whatever you want to and that poor Jodie Foster should be left in her glass closet to betray who she is. Self righteous? You bet I am..

There are reasons why some of us think that is crap and they revolve around the idea that it isn't quite time for us to relax and stop pushing. If it hasn't affected you yet, I promise you that it will. There are days when I want to scream, can you just say thank you and do your part for five minutes? Can I just stop carrying you on my back for 2 seconds and let you see what it means to do something for your people? Today is not one of those days but I do think that if you are interested in why you might consider becoming more informed on the subject of what you are now or soon will be missing, you might study up on it. Jodie Foster doesn't have these problems but you will.

Go to www.hrc.org or www.thetaskforce.org or www.glaad.org or www.victoryfund.org and read. Then write them a check and we will leave Jodie Foster alone. Did you know that Cybill Shepard was criticized in the 1990's because she was one of the first straight celebrities to support gay rights? Now she's on the L Word but YOU can still be fired from your job in some states, YOU cannot get married and there are still teenagers in Oklahoma who are killing themselves because they think they are the only one.

I can also say that some of the most rewarding moments of my life have come about because of the pride that accompanies standing up for myself and my beliefs and finding that there is power in shouting that I am as good as anyone else.
I apologize in advance for taking up so much real estate on this blog post but I cannot stay silent about this.
Missy Nomer

Wow

Very powerful commentary, so passionate, thanks for this. It's another one of the gifts you've given me and my family--and I've never even met you. But let me say thank you. And just so you know, I've been carrying a heavy pack for many years now myself.

I am enjoying this whole thread. Thanks, everyone, for contributing.

Almost 50

I happen to be in that 40-50 age group, actually almost 50. I have been involved in many things you have mentioned over the years. Sometimes it feels like we have not gone forward at all, but I don't think that all younger people have no clue about what it was like for us or what we have done to come to the point where we are today.
Being out or coming out is not so much an issue as equal rights. Maybe if we had equal rights, we wouldn't still have kids killing themselves or being kicked out of their homes because of their orientation. That is what bothers me so much. With all of the work that has been done over the years by the Human Rights Campaign, Lambda Legal, and other advocacy groups, discrimination and hate crimes against GLBT people still runs rampant.

Lambda Legal

I am sick that I forgot to include Lambda Legal and other sites full of worhty information on this subject. Go HERE: www.lambdalegal.com

With the utmost in sincerity and gratitude,
Missy Nomer

much respect

I respect your comments and would certainly like to add you to my friends list if I may. I am sure that we can have many great conversations. I too believe we all must stand up for our rights and stop hiding who we are. I have marched on Washington and participated in many pride celebrations. Let Freedom live.

The wheels that move a revolution

I would like to say first I'm glad you're enough into the cause Molly to be incensed that people would take without giving. I think that you are mildly misunderstanding where some of these comments are coming from. I think most people will agree that if you have the ability to help swing the social attitude (like a celebrity) you have the moral obligation to do so. There is a funny thing about moral obligations. Everyone's morals are different so they don't feel the same obligations. When you out someone it doesn't only affect their life but the lives of the people around them! You could be putting someone's children at risk! We still live in a day and age where wearing your life on your sleeve can still quite literally get it ripped to bits. What about the things we can't hide that still cause civil and social injustice. What about when you live somewhere where they still persecute you for something you can't hide in a closet like the color of your skin! For those of you who think it still doesn't happen, msg me I've got stories to tell. (Why say anything when Don Imus and his nappy headed hoes speak volumes) Of course no revolution or fight is done by a few alone but by a mass of people fighting for change. Civil rights activist didn't hold sit-ins with one person. Everyday in my little normal life I try my best to bust people's stereotypes not only of my sexuality but my race. I had to fight with my own mother to prove that what I do in the dark doesn't change who I am. That's how the revolution should be played out in battles on normal everyday situations to prove we deserve rights cause our blood runs as red as our next door neighbor. I know I definitely do not take for granted those who came before me. It just pisses me off when someone does something ignorant that sets the struggle (on any front) back by their actions. Like the two women fighting for custody in Georgia cause I feel like they're going to say "Now see they can't handle having any legal rights" even though it's the same stupid bs they would do!
Ms. Quel
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The individual's rights...

Celebrities have the right to choose...to work...remember they are not untouchable...I only have to mention the Dixie Chicks and their backlash from their "Freedom of Speech" bush bash...or Morgan Freeman and his loss of an MCI contract from his expression of disapproval of the Iraq war...Celebrities that choose to keep their private life private choose just that...privacy. Let's respect said privacy. We can still honor those brave few who choose to come out of the closet over their future career in advancement of gay rights. And we can still respect those who choose to live a pretense because it is after all their life to live. Maybe one day this culture we live in and create by default will change...it usually does...it just takes time...

Points taken... still

I will wholeheartedly support your right to your opinions. Thank you. The right to publicly state a dissenting opinion is one of the few remaining reasons I love this country

Still, I have absolutely zero intention of giving a crap about Jodie Foster's privacy. Every profession has it's pitfalls and potential dangers. The idea that a celebrity doesn't have a clue about the privacy risks inherent in choosing to be in the public eye is nonsense. Ask Natalie Maines, who by the way is on record as being proud she took a stand against something she believed was wrong and remains perfectly willing to accept the consequences of being true to her beliefs.

I will stick with my attitude about poor Jodie and Anderson until I have some certainty that MY right to privacy and equal legal protection under the law (and yours too by the way) is secure. Or at least until I have the right to marry and divorce Kevin Federline. Until then I am left with being forced to show my hand every chance I get so that our leaders respect the fact that we exist and stop trying to legislate their version of morality in an effort to control MY private life.

With the utmost in sincerity and gratitude,
Missy Nomer

Outing us ugly, IMHO

Everyone has a right to be private, especially about something so personal as sexuality. I think it's nobody's business but yours and the person in the bedroom with you. Anything else is your choice to tell, or not.
In Anderson Cooper's case particularly, if he came out and verified the rumors (and no, I don't think they are false), he could be in danger. As part of his job, he goes to places where merely being gay would almost certainly get him killed. Or at least it's a LOT more likely than it is in the USA.
Monica
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