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Friends Who Used to Be Lovers?

Having just finished a memoir, I am in the process of writing my acknowledgements. I know I have to thank my editor, my publishers, my agents, my family, my cats, my dogs, my friends, etc. I know who falls on the perfunctory list: people who made me tea; those who came to get me when I was reliving and re-writing that awful thing that happened to me on that awful day during that awful fall that that awful girl left me… but how in Shiva’s name do you list your exes?

This book took me a few years to pen. There were the years I was writing snippets, poems, theater pieces. Then there were the years I first started penning prose. Then there were the intense years after it was sold — when it was apparent to everyone that I was writing a book. Those years spanned a series of lovers. It somehow feels a little wrong to list them in the friends, or even the family group. The term “friends” may well offend them because they were/are so much more than friends. And the term family may well offend the current lover, as in, “How dare you list her as your family? I am your family! I am your family! Me! Here you are, listing her as family when your family won’t even acknowledge that I’m your family!” You understand the complications, folks?

After the nature of your relationship with a lover has changed, what do you call the woman who was your sun, your moon, your raison d’etre? I don’t know if this is true for anyone else, but after someone has been diving face-first into my coco-bread, it is difficult to switch to thinking that we are sisters or cousins or any configuration of a family relationship. I do not and have never had sexual relations with any member of my family. Maybe I could with an in-law — but not any of the current in-laws, so I still can’t make the cognitive leap. But I digress. The relationship between exes is a very specific and delicate thing to define.

Which brings us to the question at the core of this issue. Can the relationship ever really make the switch from old lover to platonic friend? Do you ever “forget” that you have seen this woman ass-up and incoherent with pleasure under your hands? Isn’t there always the barest hint of the carnal in that subsequent interaction? And if that is true, what are the rules of acceptable engagement between your current girlfriend and her ex? Is it simply a matter of trust? Or do we need hard, cold regulations? Is this a matter of my insecurities? Or does it depend on the situation? Should these things be decided on a case-by-case basis?

For myself, I know that there remains, between me and the women I have loved, something tender and intimate. And for the most part, particularly when I am in a new relationship, I choose not to abuse the contracts/promises of my current relationships by indulging that intimacy. But I know that there is something of me that is known only to that person who used to be my lover, and that if we are not careful, that carnal knowledge can tip us into places that we do not knowingly intend. And keeping that in mind, I require my lovers (especially if we have an exclusive arrangement) to respect boundaries that best protect all the relationships involved. Don’t spend the night snuggled up with your ex, if we are girlfriends. And if my feelings matter and you claim to be acting in consideration of those feelings, do not ask me to spend long periods of time with an ex with whom you are still in love. Common sense would stipulate that, no? But I have been in and continue to know plenty of women who have been in crazier scenarios. Again, I am straying.

Let’s get back to the issue of public listing of the exes. I am still trying to figure out how to list my exes who have all stayed up late listening to my sob stories, holding me and encouraging me to keep writing. Maybe we should come up with a term which means friend with whom I used to be lovers, and I still love her and I still need her in my life. How about love-friend? Or friend-in-law? We really have to coin something, otherwise every woman who gave you a cup of tea in passing is immediately collapsed into the larger group of people who really support you in significant ways. And the word friends, as it stands, does not differentiate between everyday friends and the particular group of women who used to serve you breakfast, make love to you and stay up with you while you hammer away at a draft that was due last Tuesday. Does anyone have any suggestions for such a term? Such a term would prove most helpful as I pummel away at the list of friends and lovers and tea-makers that make the writer’s life possible.

 

27 Comments

I know what you mean

I really relate to what you're saying about needing a term to distinguish friends who used to be lovers. If you still love them(love lasts forever) then they aren't really just friends, are they? Hmm one ponders...

I know what you mean

I really relate to what you're saying about needing a term to distinguish friends who used to be lovers. If you still love them(love lasts forever) then they aren't really just friends, are they? Hmm one ponders...

have to agree

I have to agree with Nabokova and Grace. Let me know when the book comes out. Always looking for a good book to read.

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tea-makers!

seems to me that you found the term already...it was in your writing, "tea-makers"....that could be like a secret language bt you and the women who you have loved/love...they'll know what you mean, no?

The issue of ex-lovers/friend is pretty complicated

Yeah, I relate perfectly to what you wrote. Sometimes you can't help looking at that person differently cause you shared so much and so many intimate moments... I guess I still don't have to deal with that or just repress myself cause I'm still single. I haven't met someone after her...yet.
So, as I don't hurt nobody else, I don't need to really think deeply about that and "change my mind"...better, eyes.
But I guess I'll start working on that for my own good.

Thanks for such a great blog!

To all the *women* I've loved before...

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How about frovers?

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frovers...I vote for that

=) "Frovers" is pretty nice cause it's sweet and it's not really just friends and it's not really (anymore) lovers.
She may be a lover, yeah, cause you still love them somehow but al least it does not leave your current girlfriend unconfortable.

Just a suggestion

You could list your ex-lovers as dear companions.

just say: thank you to those

just say: thank you to those who have all stayed up late listening to my sob stories, holding me and encouraging me to keep writing. (then names or not according to your preference)

or: to those ladies who have encouraged supported and inspired me.

no need to call the former lovers.

Funny. I am just now really

Funny. I am just now really learning how to be friends with my ex's. Well the ones that I want to be friends with...the one's where it's worth it for me. I have now have strong boundaries where I once didn't and the boundary that I do cross and mix I do so willingly. Are they like family? Heck no. They are a friend with that high level of intimacy. That warm welcome tension.

Acknowledgement CYA

My acknowledgment:

Muchas Gracias. You know who you are.


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lupis de nada quien es?

lupis de nada quien es?

i tend to

keep my acknowledgements very short, thanking my mentors, my parents, my friends and all those who supported me during writing. if my ex is a friend now, she is included in "friends", if she supported me, but we split up badly after that, she is "all those who supported me" and if she didnt support me, she is neither. and if we would be still together, i'd be thanking "my partner" or "my muse" too ;)
i tend to handle that similarily in real life - if i feel uncomfortable bearing the picture of her orgasm in my backhead, i'd rather not have a friendship until i do feel fine with that picture.

"The only way to get rid of a temptation is to yield to it." Oscar Wilde

A Haiku For The Ladies that Shoulda Coulda Woulda Been Listed

To all my exes
Please do not be offended
If you are nameless...

nuf said.

Grace, you nailed it for sure

Love it!

Love it!

I'd just write them down as

I'd just write them down as "The ladies whom I can not be without, you know who you are"
I mean, just write something nice like that.
Why does it have to be a short thing like "Friend" or "family"?

I would suggest

"Past love"...if your desire is to show respect for them and not imply sex explicitly...why do I feel this matters to your current "love" more than you?

list them as intimate

list them as intimate confidantes? or maybe companions

Signified others?

Signified others?

huh?

i don't understand why you don't call them your lovers/former lovers.

you loved them, they loved you. you love them, they love you. past or present the relationship you shared with these people was around loving. it was intimate, and in a way, it always will be. while you may now be "friends" you'll never be "just friends".... what is wrong in recognizing that with the term "lover"? People understand what lover means, and it's a delicious word. I don't know why you want to beat around the bush about your relationship with these women with other less-than-clear terms around your relations with them. own it, these people are your lovers and always will be.

BRAVO!!!

Excellent response! I'm in total agreement.

Thank you!

ex rhymes with sex

for a good reason.

because they both end in

because they both end in "e-x"?

ex is the perfect term

reminiscent of what one used to share

Hmm

Maybe list the "ladies who we're there for you during the process" or something like that and then list your current lover seperately so she won't feel like she's grouped with them? Good luck with whatever you choose and when's the book being released? I must check it out.