I think of myself as an honest person, but it has come to my attention that I am not an honest person. A woman of my acquaintance used to regularly point this out to me. She would do this not at the top of her lungs, but with an intensity tantamount to yelling.
It's a funny thing about emotional confrontations. What you hear might not be what the other person's saying. You might hear what you're afraid they're saying but aren't. You might even hear what they're trying to say but can't find the words for. There's no such thing as objective fact when emotions are flying around the room; there's only subjectivity, or subjectivities. Perception is everything and 90% of perception in an emotional exchange is misperception, delusion.
Delusion is a great place to have sex. Not seeing the other person as they really are, not knowing much about them, not caring, being able to project onto them any and every thing that floats through your fervid brain at the moment is the psychic equivalent of lube. The deluded mind is free to shape another person into a semblance of a thing you wouldn't mind being caught rubbing yourself against in a frenzy.
At the point of frenzy, of course, it really doesn't matter what you're rubbing yourself against — real, imagined, animate or battery-powered.
But lies will get you to that place faster than honesty — beginning with lies to the self. And the greatest of these is love.
Love is a four-letter word designed to dignify the passionate attraction between individuals. Love is an invention of 13th-century France. Love is an umbrella term for all kinds of misbehavior, including murder. About the only sentence in which the word love can be used without fear of contradiction is one involving a foodstuff, as in, "I love macadamia nuts."
When you tell your friends you're in love, when you tell someone you love her, when you tell yourself the reason you're behaving the way you're behaving is because of love, because you've gotten to the point where nothing else could justify your behavior, you're probably lying. You probably just want sex, but are too ashamed to say so. Or you might want comfort, or tenderness, or sympathy, or understanding, or delight, or wonder, or refreshment of your faith in the human spirit. You might want to spend some time alone with another person who reveals themselves to you and you to yourself.
Or you might actually love.
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why bother make a cake
when you just can eat the sugar with a spoon, directelly in the bag?
escape the human myth
-Maïakovsky
when i'm back in montreal
i wrigth a philo-blog on love, specialy for you
love exist
because we create it (as everything else). love is like an art, but not every body is a good artist.
or working in the same medium
or the same genre
well
if you have better things to do...
Delusion
may be inevitable. It's its own kind of truth.
nice blog.
lies, love, it's all the same to me.
love not lie
im in love.. and when i love, i dont lie about it..
it was a while till i could be able to tell her "i love you" and now, after a breakup we are back together and we love each other more than ever.. it was tough but i wouldnt change my feeling for anything in the world.. i just enjoy being in love with a woman that enjoys the same feeling... and that is not lying..
Learned the hard way
I will say that if you're just wanting to have sex with someone then be sure to do before the illusion wears off and you see them more clearly. Major libido killer.
And if you just want sex, don't get involved with someone who really likes you unless hurting people gets you off. On the flip side, if you can honestly tell the other person just wants sex and you want a relationship don't fool yourself into thinking sex will create one.
alright, Blackwell...
I bow down to you. This rocks.
you're bang on.
"delusion is a great place to have sex" how bittersweet & true it is.
but one could argue that psychic lube is a necessary precursor to the physical sort, regardless of how legit one's love/lust/passion/delusions are.
Confusions between passion and love
I am probably going to express the same as you said (I don't know?)in a more trivial way.
We tend to confuse passion and love.
I think passion (sex attraction) is not love(but it can be a part of it).
That's why I totally agree with you when you say that "delusion is a great place to have sex".
Love is beyond that, it has to be built with two people and with trust. According to me, it needs a lot of self-confidence, understanding, composure, for the two persons... and I think it needs sex.
And it's possible to have sex with someone you don't deny, I mean without delusion...
i thought passion was love
or i mean, i fall in love with the whole person, the psyche, the personality. but my love is never of much practical use and certainly sounds nothing like corinthians 13
Passion
this is for me the word of delusion, fire (I like it, I lived it), built on lies, some of them are very nice ("tell me you love me even if it's a lie, life is so short")... I like very much lies, it gives magic, entertainment...
But only if everybody knows about it and do agree with the game.
I read Corinthian 13 (I didn't know it, thank you), this truth is not sexy at all, looks like a big freezing stone, something you never reach, a rule passivily executed.
I thought that truth (or truths?) was something you would search everyday in a sort of "trying to be true" dayly process, not anti-sex.
For me, lies are often a sort of sugar-chantilly, hiding the taste of a good stinking cheese (that you could eat with a Chardonnay): chantilly is disgusting!
In love there is trust. How do you build trust with lies?
je me suis arrêtée à Lio...
...ça m'a pris du temps, tiens. je répondrais plus tard!
Stay with her
don't answer.
:o)
if you fall in love with the whole person
then can you love your "love object"?
delusional mind lube..
one of those things we all do.. but not all of us can admit.
=)
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!!
very much agreed! i will have to remind myself to remember that...
=)
p.s. your new profile picture is hilarious!
do you think it's less noble
do you think it's less noble to delude yourself, even when you recognize it's just for sex? Or is that simply less romantic?
is it less noble to have sex
simply for the sake of its delusions?
is sex ever a noble act?
is sex ever a noble act?
The Christian right would say
only for procreation.
such a good question
in chivalry, the point is extreme service, subjugation. this enobled subsequent sex, if there was any. even though it was adulterous. so maybe, yeah.
Can you delude yourself...
if you KNOW you're using the excuse of love for sex? If the answer is NO
THEN the question becomes
Is it more noble that you are not deluding yourself when you are using the excuse of love for sex?
Which specifically means (according to the definitions below):
Do you possess superiority of mind or character or of ideals or morals if you have an understanding of your motivations to use love as an excuse for sex?
ANSWER: That is a question only you can answer.
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DEFINITIONS (Merriam-Webster Dictionary):
Delusion: something that is falsely believed.
Delude: to mislead deceive or trick the mind.
Know:
to be aware of the truth or factuality of
Self Knowledge:
knowledge or understanding of one's own capabilities,character, feelings, or motivations.
Noble:
possessing very high or excellent qualities from superiority of mind or character or of ideals or morals
I actually haven't mentioned
I actually haven't mentioned love at all... that was the point...
If I'm not in love with someone (or deluding myself into believing that I'm in love with them)... but still telling myself little lies in order to be content in having sex with someone, is that less noble than pretending to be in love with someone in order to achieve the same?
i was kind of joking... I'm coming to terms with being a desperate romantic, by trying to let go of the need for love in my intimate relations with people... and that is a kind of lie too.
is love the lie
or is love the truth
It depends on the definition of love
Is love, defined above as "an invention of 13th-century France...an umbrella term for all kinds of misbehavior" the lie or the truth? If so, then it is simply an historical question...Is "love" actually an invention of 13th century France that was used to excuse all kinds of misbehavior? Yes or no.
If that is not the definition of love then "what is love?"
If there is no universal definition of love then we can each define love in our own way. Thus, love, according to each person's definition, will always be the truth: If one defines love as the lie then that is the truth. If one defines love as the truth then that is the truth.
The question I have for you is, based on your statement above, what is love the truth or the lie of??
Helen Keller: Love defined?
"the best most beautiful things in the world cannot be seen or even touched, but just felt in the heart."
Although she never says the word, is this what we envision love to be?
If so, then
love is the truth when the most beautiful things in the world are felt in the heart;
love is a lie when we can only find beauty in that which we can see or touch.
Helen Keller: "when is love a lie" revisited: Let me rephrase
[sorry about all the comments...i'm trying to work through this without "editing" which is discouraged...I am after all a FOOLISH dreamer so bear with me]:
Based on my Helen Keller definition of love,
Love is a lie when the most beautiful things are not felt in the heart.
Thus, in contrast to my statement above, LOVE IS A LIE
1. WHEN we can only find beauty** outside of ourselves AND
2. WHEN, although we find beauty** within ourselves (as in our delusional brains), we do not find that beauty** within our hearts.
The question would then be can love exist even if we have a false belief (delusion) that leads us to find the most beautiful things of life within our hearts?
We'll have to ask Helen Keller that question.
Thanks for your patience on this issue...FoolishDreamer
**I use the word "beauty" as shorthand for "the most beautiful things in the world".
follow kierkegaard
open another account with another email under another name & you can dialogue with yourself and it'll look "normal" whatever that is.
I'd rather dialogue with you...
perhaps you are my pseudonym.
i'm your delusion
i'm your delusion
Kierkegaard: am i the sin or are you the sin
Kierkegaard says that losing one's self is a sin. Have you lost yourself to become my delusion or have I lost myself by accepting you as my delusion? And who bears the responsibility for the loss of self when it may be a consequence of the sinner's facticity?
that is the question!
that is the question!
Well said.
This is quite thought provoking, and well written, LOVE the song. haha.
or maybe i just need to get layed ;]
I think,
in this case, a distinction needs to be made when loving and being in love. I don't disagree that when sex is involved, lies tend to flow more freely; however, I don't think that there's any dishonesty when I talk about loving my friends. There might be some issues behind the word love in the case of family, but I'm not ready to discredit the word entirely yet. And, being single and twenty-four, I hope not to permanently discredit the sexual sort either....
nice song..
what is love? baby dont hurt me.. *ugh* true.. i like this!
Love...
the video. Love to dance to this song.
OH WoW.....!
A night in the Roxy anyone??
i love it.. ha
i love it.. ha