I’m a Dinah Shore virgin. This doesn’t mean I’ve never had sex at Dinah Shore — well I guess it means that too — but I’ve actually never been to the event. Am I going to get my lesbian membership card revoked for admitting that?
This year is going to be different. I finally made the move to L.A. 10 days ago after much procrastination, and it just so happens that Dinah is next weekend. I’m going to hop in my 2001 forest green Honda CRV, throw on my shades and head to Palm Springs.
I’m a little nervous. The website shows what looks to be thousands upon thousands of women scantily clad in bikini’s swarming around a huge swimming pool. Does this mean I have to wear a bikini? I don’t think I can recall wearing one of those since I was six or seven, and that one had Wonder Woman on it. Does this mean I also have to be a good swimmer? Do half of the women lounge by the pool sipping mojitos while the others, who have more of a serious and competitive temperament, swim laps?
And what about the parties? There seem to be tons of them, each one costing over $50 a pop. How do you choose where to go? One you wear white, another has celebrity guests, another is for women of color, another has strippers — who can be expected to make a decision?
I have always prided myself on being a horrible decision maker, so I’ve been thinking about this for a couple weeks. I am a black lesbian who likes to swim and doesn’t mind watching strippers. Is there a way to get all my needs met at once without dropping $300?
I mentioned my dilemma to a friend, also a black lesbian, who shook her head and rolled her eyes at me: “You have to go to the women of color parties. You have to support your peeps.” I chuckled because, whenever she says that word, I think of those yellow mushy marshmallow Easter candies in the shape of baby chicks that I can never bring myself to stomach.
So, I went online to get tickets to the so-called WOC parties and noticed that they weren’t on the website. I called my friend back. She was irritated because I interrupted her from the season finale of
LOST.
“Are they really still on that island?" I joked with her. She didn’t find it funny.
“It’s so much more complex than that. If you haven’t been following it, you wouldn’t understand. Hold on.” She sighed loudly and put the TIVO on pause.
“I’m sorry for interrupting,” I told her, “but I went online and I couldn’t find the parties for women of color”
She chuckled as if she had a delicious secret she couldn’t wait to let me in on. “They aren’t on the Dinah website. They are separate special events. It’s kind of like the white lesbians have their parties and the women of color have theirs, and so the color parties are separate form the main parties.”
Suddenly I felt like I was thrown back to the early 1900s. Color parties? Separated from the main parties?
“I don’t get it? Why can’t they just throw one big party, and all the dykes under the big gay rainbow can dance the night away under an umbrella of stars?”
“Wow. How poetic. Are you really that corny and naïve? That’s life. Why should it change just because it’s a lesbian party in Palm Springs? The rules are still the rules. It doesn’t change just because the game does.”
Wait a minute? I could have sworn I heard those lyrics in a Doctor Dre song. “Okay,” I said. “I get what you are saying, but you would think since gays know what it is to feel discriminated against that the rules WOULD be different?”
“We still get to have our parties. So, in the end, it all works out; and there are some events there that are somewhat mixed, but people are drawn to what they are familiar with and who they feel comfortable around, no matter if they are gay or not.”
So, I hung up the phone and thought about this. Since I have arrived in L.A. have the gay places I’ve been hanging out been integrated? And, if so, was there still internal segregation going on amongst the different circles of girls? What about in other cities I’ve been to — Chicago, New York, Indianapolis, San Diego — maybe she was right? And how do I fit into all of it? I’m bi-racial, but identify as black. I was adopted and raised by white parents who went the extra mile to make sure I identified with my blackness. I like dancing to hip hop, but I also like to groove to house and the Indigo Girls.
Should an event like Dinah Shore include these parties as part of their event or should they invite these promoters to join in with them so everyone can hang at the same party? Is that even realistic? Like my friend pointed out, people like to hang where they are comfortable and will have a good time — no matter if they are gay or not. So, maybe people like it the way it is. And maybe I’m a naïve lesbian who’s grown up in some sort of fake, interracial utopia. The world really isn’t like that, so why should a lesbian gathering in Palm Springs be any different?
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Decisions...Decisions
I won't be there, but if I had to choose, probably would go with...........
http://youtube.com/watch?v=joLGLibJB5Y
East Coast Virgin...I mean version
Hey folks,
So I was looking up the east coast Dinah the other day - AquaGirl - which bills it's events as:
"14 culturally diverse events for everyone to choose from"
Annnnnd now I know why. There's wasn't much explicitly WOC diversity evident, though, besides a "Latin flavor" evening. Who knows what's up.
http://www.aquagirl.org/index.asp
I was JUST talking to my
I was JUST talking to my friend about this. Why the separation/segregation at the Dinah? Why not just recognize,legitimize and integrate the woc events into the main events? It makes no sense to me.
BTW- I have to tell you how awesome it is to hear someone voice the dilemmas/questions faced by biracial lesbians. Thanks for representing.
I've been thinking and maybe
I've been thinking and maybe the WOC parties started ,because the original parties didn't have the flavor that women of color like.So what do you do? You start to give your own party that serves the food you like,plays the music you like and the entertainers more palitable to certain ethic groups.
If Dinah's original party givers kept this in mind when they were planning thier parties then maybe WOC would not have felt the need to give their own.You could look at it this way everyone has options:)
Much like the reason I drive to little Mexico to get real mexican food versus a chain restaurant type in town.I want the flavor, the atmosphere,the music,the smells of authentic mexican food:)
Flavor?
I kinda think all women have the same "flavor"...... sweet !
Peace Out.
will humans ever change?
As I sit here wearing my heterosexual backpack of privilege, whoops...I mean white back pack of privilege (I'm gayer than anyone I know), I wonder will humans ever change. Straights hang with straights (except a few gay friends and fag hags), lesbians with lesbians, fags with fags, same with same with same. As much as leaders and activists do anti-hate work, laws change, and we all feel like things are getting a tinnnnyyy bit better, I still look around me and see my mostly white, middle class, lesbian, women friends.
Of course lesbians of color are invited to the parties and the white girls are invited to lesbian of color parties (i think) these days. But look around yourself, or if you are especially utopically brought up or live, look at some folks around you. People crave what is comfortable and easy, where they might feel good or please their ego, and/or just go with the flow of their friends. Some one up there said it when she admitted that any party makes her socially awkward. Now, I'll simply say that my friends around me are due to just having things in common. I don't consciously choose just white lesbian friends -I have a variety of friends of different back grounds etc. Ironically the only time I went to Dinah Shore I was with mostly people of color - we rented our own house, went to the 'white party' for too much money, and decided only the pool parties were worth it.
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confused now....
My mom is biracial and my dad bi-cultural so what party would that send me to if i did attend Dinah???
Is there a quota??
You and I would have to swim at the back of the pool. I guess" Dinah" is very open to 'Lesbians Gone Wild" as long as they are "politically correct" lesbians.
Would that be lesbians with an "American flag pin" nipple ring??
Just a "bi-racial" , lesbian question.........hum, do you think there might be a quota for chicks like us??
just what i was about to say too
when you're mixed no one really wants you anywhere, i know that i never really fit in. i look white, so my fellow women of color don't recognize me as their own and when i hang out with all of my fellow jews they point out that i am only half. these parties should disappear and we all should be dancing under the big gay rainbow in the sky together! hey we are all already seperated enough in the real world, why do we have to further seperate each other in a group of lesbians, which on our own is facing enough discrimination?
"Back of the Pool"
I don't know about all this crazy Women of Color thingy. I'm Bi-racial. Do I have to swim in the back of the pool?? Which color should I pick?? Who has the best parties?? Which color should I be this time?? Is there a beige party??
Just thought I'd ask.
Peace Out.
Just sad!
I guess I'm naive to all this segregation stuff. I had no idea. It never entered my mind that Dinah would have seperate parties. Oh, I'm tired, so I'm not going to comment on that - sorry for this situation. More things change, the more they stay the same....just sad!
Nothing but love
Tex
So that's
what they mean by "white parties."................lol
Clubbing back home in Boston I don't recall the clubs being "mixed" either, but that was half a lifetime ago. Although I was dating a "WOC" at the time and we went to all the clubs together.....maybe I was drunk.....hehehehe
N!k
Okay, this cracked me up: "I
Okay, this cracked me up: "I am a black lesbian who likes to swim and doesn’t mind watching strippers. Is there a way to get all my needs met at once without dropping $300?"
Personally, I am pro options, especially if one of those options includes time and space set aside for me to be among other ethnic minorities. Even more so if it involves anthropomorphized marshmallow products. Have fun in Palm Springs!
NICE
I love when I read blogs and have to look up words that i dont know.
Hee! www.m-w.com = love.
Hee! www.m-w.com = love.
nyc
New York is definelty segregated. White girls go to henrietta's and cattyshack, black girls go to lovergirl and the lab. It's actually kinda sad cuz in my tiny college town all the lesbians hung out together. Now that I'm in NYC i hang out with all different colored girls, and my circle always ends up divided on the weekends... cant we all just party together?!?!?! aah, only if the world was perfect.
At My House......
In L.A. all girls are welcome at "The House of Love" . Well, I kinda hide that sign behind the rose bushes 'cause my neighbors already think I'm " a little odd".
No restrictions @ my house.
All love is good love.
note to self
lovergirl
the lab
dallas
has a few clubs with all races mixed up mishmashed together - there is one club that plays a ton of hip hop, but it's all on the same street walking distance - easy breezy and convenient to hit it all in one night. everyone hangs out with everyone. funny enough and in texas :) we are multi culti, multi ethno friendly homos. we have by far one of the best gayborhoods going.
SHE RIGHT
Im from Funky town so you know it only natural the I party in Dallas, and the club scene is pretty much mixed. Are maybe because we dont have enough gay clubs.
Okay,
I need to come up and go to these! I'm ready for some hip hop - you game? Hit 'em all in one night?!?!
Nothing but love
Tex
whats the prob?
I am a little surprised about the choice of categories too, but i would expect a major event such as dinah to split up the parties according to interests (i.e. music tastes or type preferences) too.
Its irritating that there is black and possibly latino and maybe white parties, but
a) i guess and hope there is many more theme parties focussing other points than colour (zina just pointed this one out as an example i hope) and
b) discrimination would be, if some parties excluded others. as long as i can attend the black party too (i am white), because i like dark skin or curly hair or my best friend goes too or whateva! its all fine.
"The only way to get rid of a temptation is to yield to it." Oscar Wilde
Parties
Zina, I'm half and half too (Mexican and English). This is my first time at The Dinah too. Well, I'm just gonna party like it is 2008, and figure things out when I get there (I ordered an all access pass but didn't know about the separate parties).
And yes, there always could be a party in my room, ha.
and here I am...
...getting all pissed off again 'cause I'm not going to Dinah. I'm a Dinah virgin also - the one year I really want to go to this thing and every one of my Continuing Education classes coincide. Well, all I can say is - next year! Please, Minnie, take plenty of pictures!....and take notes!
Nothing but love
Tex
Minnie I didn't know there
Minnie I didn't know there were separate parties either until I was reading Jasmyne Cannick blog this weekend trying to catch up on her latest and saw the advertisements:( The one on her site is by a interacial lesbian couple. There are probably others....
Suddenly I felt like I was thrown back to the early 1900s
I so agree. I have never been but want to go to this big party. Hopefully I can save enough money & go next year. I am shocked that they have seperate parties. I don't understand why they would do this in this day & age. To me this is the wrong message to send out. Even though I am white, I enjoy the music AND company of both ethnic groups as well as others. Since I have never been maybe I shouldn't hold any judgement. Do you have to pay to get into each party or does one price admit to both parties?
and soon some splits of
and soon some splits of splits : the shenny party inside the shane fan's one, the tibetters one etc.. inside official Dinah Shore program !!!
Bummer!
I'm a white lesbian*, and I'll be attending the Dinah for the first time myself this weekend, and I'm deeply dismayed to hear that lesbians of color feel they have to attend separate parties in order to feel familiar and comfortable. Does that mean I'm going to be stuck in yet another monochrome, monotone mixer?
I want to play with all the dykes! Is there anything I as a white lesbian can do to make everyone feel familiar and welcome, so we can all come together and get to know each other? (If it's any consolation, I don't feel familiar or comfortable at any party, regardless of the ethnic mix, or lack thereof.)
[* And when I say I'm a "white lesbian", I'm not kidding. I'm blindingly white. Bring shades. Maybe a welder's helmet. Yikes!!!]
i thought
the parties were for everyone? is the segregating coming from the woc or the wasps? forgive my ignorance, but if a party is being thrown isn't everyone who can drop the cash to get in invited?